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Maybe not the time for it but I wonder how many deaths there will be from the mother of all parties when all restrictions are finally lifted whenever that may be, summer or even 2022
 
I will not I will just say it SHOULD be for everyone. As this will drive the mutant strain up here.

I know a few who travelled up north yesterday and today. Undoubtedly, many more will be heading north. As this strain has been around since mid November at the very least, no doubt it will soon spread to other areas.
 
Sorry mate but Boris et al have made things a lot worse than necessary
If he'd had said 3 weeks ago that Christmas was cancelled then we'd be saying on here that it's still a joke.

The BBC ran a headline yesterday, first about this new variant and second about how loads of pubs/restaurants are going bust....

What are they meant to do? They've tried to run with a balanced approach but cases are going up too fast and now they are reacting to that in advance of the rush this week.

Ask any healthcare provider and they'll agree with the new rules but ask them 4 months ago and we'd still be locked in our houses despite minimal cases. There's just no right answer.
 
There are zero measures whatsoever to stop people travelling in and out of the worse affected regions. It all started from people travelling in from other countries, and it took them about 3 months to start imposing any restrictions telly people to quarantine for 2 weeks, in their own home, unmonitored.


Whatever new strain there is will be all over the country in a few days similar and everyone will be in tier 4 for new year, unless they rebadge the tier again.
 
Seen someone taking the piss out of London.

Those that think that’s appropriate maybe spare a thought for the thousands of lonely elderly people, who have waited months to see their families, have been suffering alone in care homes and small flats, for months on end, only for the day they’ve been waiting for to be taken away from them with 6 days ‘til the day.

Also think about the extra people who will lose family as a result of this variation.

It’s not the fault of all Londoners, the majority of which will have adhered to the rules.

Have a go at this diabolical government and the minority of dick heads ruining it for everyone, thinking cramming into shops is important.
 
Clearly this new variant is the differentiating factor, and the fact they are worried enough to shutdown the capital and cancel the biggest retail period of the year suggests the data coming out of Porton Down is very nasty indeed.
The cynic in me thinks that the capital should have been shut / in lockdown a while back, but as a huge percentage of folk finished for xmas (as did the schools) on Friday, today is the first day the govt felt able to do it.
 
I have to say I have sympathy with Boris and the government because this has become an impossible situation.

There's just no right answer to this.

Yes there fucking is.

The lesson was there before even the first lock down.

Act quickly. Put suppressing the virus as top priority. Track, trace, isolate.

This lot have again, again and once again:

1. Been slow to respond.

2. Made false promises of recovery.

3. Eased restrictions too fast.

4. Relied on an entirely false notion of compromise between virus suppression and the economy.

5. Ended up with more dead, harsher and longer restrictions and more economic damage as a result.

Same again today.

We have nearly the worst death toll *and* nearly the worst economic hit in the entire developed world. It's not bad luck. It's been an endless and total clusterfuck from the word go.
 
Seen someone taking the piss out of London.

Those that think that’s appropriate maybe spare a thought for the thousands of lonely elderly people, who have waited months to see their families, have been suffering alone in care homes and small flats, for months on end, only for the day they’ve been waiting for to be taken away from them with 6 days ‘til the day.

Also think about the extra people who will lose family as a result of this variation.

It’s not the fault of all Londoners, the majority of which will have adhered to the rules.

Have a go at this diabolical government and the minority of dick heads ruining it for everyone, thinking cramming into shops is important.
Totally agree that it’s out of order to take the piss. It was only last week that London were in a lower tier than us and suddenly they’re in a higher one - one that I didn’t even know existed until a few hours ago. That said, there was one poster on here several weeks back implying that the reason the infection numbers were higher up north is because we weren’t behaving ourselves while the southerners were!
 
Yes there fucking is.

The lesson was there before even the first lock down.

Act quickly. Put suppressing the virus as top priority. Track, trace, isolate.

This lot have again, again and once again:

1. Been slow to respond.

2. Made false promises of recovery.

3. Eased restrictions too fast.

4. Relied on an entirely false notion of compromise between virus suppression and the economy.

5. Ended up with more dead, harsher and longer restrictions and more economic damage as a result.

Same again today.

We have nearly the worst death toll *and* nearly the worst economic hit in the entire developed world. It's not bad luck. It's been an endless and total clusterfuck from the word go.

Largely, I agree with him. There isn't a specific right way.

What you have listed are that there are a whole load of wrong ways to do it, and the govt has done most of them.
 
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