Ifwecouldjust.......
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Starmer has the lying American on the ropes now.
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese
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I thought he was doing brilliantly actually, until May of all people put him back in his box.Starmer has the lying American on the ropes now.
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'look what you could have won' moment.Theresa May blaming this deal on Starmer for not voting for her better deal in 2019...
No need to keep filling the sump with pointless posts.I like to think this thread acts as a sort of sump allowing all of us idiots to fester in a contained space and keeping the rest of the forum clear of our nonsense - largely the reason it wasn't shut months ago.
Many on here - not meaning you - never understood the threat of the unfettered backstop that May would have committed the UK to - genuinely a vassal state outcome.I shudder at the fact that at one point, due to brexit fatigue, some of us, including me, were trying to find positives in the WA just to bring an end to the whole saga. Odin be praised for December 2019.
And then of course there was the detail of the PD that she would have implemented.
Fuck - the UK came that close to disaster
Agreed - some are probably shocked to find that there are two 8 O'Clocks in a dayMuddled and chaotic because they are unused to clocking in at that time of day
I just posted an article from an MSP - I suggest that you take it up with himPlease stop posting crap.
"They latched on to the issue of seed potato sales into Europe, without having done the research that showed that just five per cent of Scottish seed potato exports go to the EU "
My research suggests that, of all the seed potatoes exported from all the UK, a fifth is (was) Scottish potatoes going to the EU.
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So if the Hitler supporting SNP vote against this deal, what deal are they in favour of?No one voting against this deal is voting for no deal.
If I'm on a jury and I vote not guilty I'm not saying that no one committed the crime.
As I see it the nationalists are as gutted as so many on here that the deal we were told for 4.5 years was simply impossible has been negotiated.
My own personal disappointment and only gripe with the deal is that I cannot see anywhere in it for providing us with a third world war which I was very much looking forward to after being promised it by Cameron and Osborne and many others on the remain side of the debate.
And little Nichola can complain as much as she wants. The Scottish people are not stupid. They know full well that independence would mean the cutting off of the English taxpayer funded teat they've been suckling on for so long.
The union will be just fine thank you.
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The UK's deal with Europe is better than ours,' says Norway's leading party
https://www.thelocal.no/20201229/norways-centre-party-the-british-have-a-better-deal-than-the-eea
referéndum inbound
Would be quicker for them to join us as part of the UK. We will give them Corrie, sausages and the recipe for chips and in return they can give us gold medals at the Winter Olympics.
Another example of the value of a 'No-Deal option' in negotiations - and general management of affairsStarmer is right...
"There's only one choice today, to vote for implementing this deal or to vote for no-deal. Those who vote no, vote for no-deal."
What a difference to the dealings in the HoC of 15months ago
You didn't say he was a Tory. If it wasn't an overused word, I'd say your sycophancy now means you post stuff you think supports your view without any check on the rubbish within the posts. Like Johnson with the deal.I just posted an article from an MSP - I suggest that you take it up with him
You're right on the numbers, provided the sales to England / NI / Wales from Scotland aren't counted as exports from Scotland. Which would be the Scottish Nationalist view.Please stop posting crap.
"They latched on to the issue of seed potato sales into Europe, without having done the research that showed that just five per cent of Scottish seed potato exports go to the EU "
My research suggests that, of all the seed potatoes exported from all the UK, a fifth is (was) Scottish potatoes going to the EU.
The reason we can't export export them is apparently fears of divergence on agricultural standards between UK / EU. If Scotland left the UK, it is hard to imaging that there wouldn't be agricultural alignment going forward, or else you are going to need a hard UK / Scotland border. Northern Ireland is still aligned with Ireland for agriculture.(Scotland can't export seed potatoes to NI either now.)
Exports to the EU from Scotland are currently 20,000 tonnes pa, and exports to Egypt are 30-40,000 tonnes pa. The EU isn't always that important as a market. Its politics. Partial information to make a point is king.
And bizarrely we are are still allowing imports of seed potatoes to the UK from the EU for a year. Why? God knows. But if we just buy the Scottish ones instead, it solves the problem, and a load of CO2 emissions too.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Bill Cash on Acid on now .... rambling about Churchill and Thatcher.... The Tory ''Spartans''
Who the f@ck votes for these morons .....
Who the f@ck votes for these morons .....
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Did I really hear that Bill Cash thinks that the architect of the Single Market would be proud of Johnson?
There’s no shortage of delusion in the Tory party.
There’s no shortage of delusion in the Tory party.
I have always given full credit to Starmer, Corbyn, Soubry, Grieve, et al for their important role in getting us to where we are today.Theresa May blaming this deal on Starmer for not voting for her better deal in 2019...
Ifwecouldjust.......
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So if the Hitler supporting SNP vote against this deal, what deal are they in favour of?
As I see it the nationalists are as gutted as so many on here that the deal we were told for 4.5 years was simply impossible has been negotiated.
My own personal disappointment and only gripe with the deal is that I cannot see anywhere in it for providing us with a third world war which I was very much looking forward to after being promised it by Cameron and Osborne and many others on the remain side of the debate.
And little Nichola can complain as much as she wants. The Scottish people are not stupid. They know full well that independence would mean the cutting off of the English taxpayer funded teat they've been suckling on for so long.
The union will be just fine thank you.
Tory MP has just threatened the Scots with no trade deal if they get independence. ...... is that really the basis for a relationship?
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Sammy Wilson live now .... fresh from the pub.
So you don't think Starmer should have a viable walkaway option today?Another example of the value of a 'No-Deal option' in negotiations - and general management of affairs
What a difference to the dealings in the HoC of 15months ago
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