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I assume we’ll have to wait until the papers tonight to see if there’s going to be a change in the school issue. Surely they won’t leave it until literally the night before...
 
KENT

DARTFORD

Cases 196 - down from 205. Total cases 6153

Pop score up 174 to 5464

Weekly Pop UP from 1099 to 1193.


MEDWAY

Cases 387 - up from 378. Total cases 17, 538.

Pop score up 139 to 6296.

Weekly Pop UP from 1038 to 1075.
 
SWANSEA

Cases 204 - up from 59 - but that would have included some of todays as it is for 48 hours.

Total cases 13, 943.

Pop score up 82 to 5645 - again a two day rise.

Weekly Pop 319. (The double days make this difficult to compare).
 
Cityfan said:
Yep but I'm not sure which segments of viral rna the pcr amplifies and detects if they are bits that code for spike I guess a vaccine could in theory of itself be detected by pcr but I see no way it could get to the swab.
All of which is to say I don't know the answer for sure but it sounds highly improbable.
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Good point.
I think the PCR probably does the whole lot that is there - it's the way the point mutations get identified.

I'd therefore hope that testing would be able to demarcate between the spike only and the whole thing.
 
27 are now dead in Belgium in that care home I mentioned the other day where an unaware but then already infected Santa visited them as a treat on 5 December.

Turned out to be a super spreader.

What a tragic tale of why we should never have sanctioned a normal Christmas Day as that will have happened to families all over the UK but the consequences of it are two or three weeks away from being realised.
 
So 530,000 Oxford jabs available Monday that's how many per GP surgery?

Until more arrives I can see why they are giving those 530,000 one jab - otherwise they would run out in a day or two.

Hope the plan for 2 million a week from mid January does not slip.

With it we might have a chance of reverting to the planned regime once we cover all the truly vulnerable with one.

But these next 8 or 9 weeks are going to be cruel on many families whilst we race to play catch up. with the virus
 
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Healdplace said:
27 are now dead in Belgium in that care home I mentioned the other day where an unaware but then already infected Santa visited them as a treat on 5 December.

Turned out to be a super spreader.

What a tragic tale of why we should never have sanctioned a normal Christmas Day as that will have happened to families all over the UK but the consequences of it are two or three weeks away.
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I’m not convinced Christmas Day will be the big spreader a lot think. Most families I know only seemed to see grandparents if anyone from outside their households, and then only for a few hours with precautions. There doesn’t seem to much meeting through the rest of the holiday period.
I’m sure there were instances of bad behaviour, however I wonder if that will be counter balanced by most of us off work, and schools on holiday. Pubs and restaurants in most places shut except takeaway.
Not saying there won’t be Christmas spread, just not sure we will see it as a big rise from where we are with cases from the last few weeks.
 
Healdplace said:
27 are now dead in Belgium in that care home I mentioned the other day where an unaware but then already infected Santa visited them as a treat on 5 December.

Turned out to be a super spreader.

What a tragic tale of why we should never have sanctioned a normal Christmas Day as that will have happened to families all over the UK but the consequences of it are two or three weeks away from being realised.
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I don’t think by any objective analysis, Christmas Day just gone could be described as ‘normal’.
 
Healdplace said:
So 530,000 Oxford jabs available Monday that's how many per GP surgery?

Until more arrives I can see why they are giving those 530,000 one jab - otherwise they would run out in a day or two.

Hope the plan for 2 million a week from mid January does not slip.

With it we might have a chance of reverting to the planned regime.

But these next 8 or 9 weeks are going to be cruel on many families whilst we race to play catch up. with the virus
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like you say AstraZeneca seem confident in being able to deliver a couple of million per week so fingers crossed, hopefully it works as intended and we can start more widespread vaccinations early Spring. The data will be coming in and hopefully reinforcing the trial results and providing more evidence of longevity and efficacy and hopefully re-assure the rest of the population and give us a solid path forward with which we can prepare for next winter, ideally maybe working to combine it into 1 shot as a flu jab top-up in September/October.

We can hope anyway. It would be nice after everything people have been through that nothing untoward or nasty crops up and we can get through this now, and come out of the wreckage with the silent majority trying to build a better, kinder society and reward those who have made the greatest sacrifices for us.
 
The UK has recorded another 57,725 COVID-19 cases - its highest daily total since the start of the pandemic.

A further 445 coronavirus-related deaths were also reported on Saturday.

The total number of people who have died within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test in the UK now stands at 74,570, according to government figures.
 
Batches of the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine have started arriving at UK hospitals ahead of the jab's nationwide roll-out.

Some 530,000 doses of the treatment will be available for roll-out across the UK from Monday, with vulnerable groups already identified as the priority for immunisation.

news.sky.com

COVID-19: Batches of Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine arrive at UK hospitals ahead of roll-out

More than half a million doses of the treatment will be available from Monday, with vulnerable groups prioritised.
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MillionMilesAway said:
Good point.
I think the PCR probably does the whole lot that is there - it's the way the point mutations get identified.

I'd therefore hope that testing would be able to demarcate between the spike only and the whole thing.
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I think the main way point mutations get identified is through whole genome sequencing with genomics done on a sampled basis rather than by pcr testing.
However the new variant is possibly identifiable through pcr testing as one of the sequences commonly used is not amplified with the new variant. My understanding is that basically three seperate sequences are used for pcr. I may be wrong though it is not my particular field.
 
Claytop said:
I assume we’ll have to wait until the papers tonight to see if there’s going to be a change in the school issue. Surely they won’t leave it until literally the night before...
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Daughter‘s school emailed, mailed, all parents last Wednesday to tell them school was closed next week, 11-16.
 
blueparrot said:
I’m not convinced Christmas Day will be the big spreader a lot think. Most families I know only seemed to see grandparents if anyone from outside their households, and then only for a few hours with precautions. There doesn’t seem to much meeting through the rest of the holiday period.
I’m sure there were instances of bad behaviour, however I wonder if that will be counter balanced by most of us off work, and schools on holiday. Pubs and restaurants in most places shut except takeaway.
Not saying there won’t be Christmas spread, just not sure we will see it as a big rise from where we are with cases from the last few weeks.
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My personal experience is most of my family and friends had a quiet, limited Christmas. A few broke the rules and did Boxing Day instead (as that’s what they had planned). However, with children aged between 18 and 30, nieces and nephews of the same age, I don’t feel so optimistic about NYE. My son was working, but most of his friend were at parties. A lot of his mates who are at uni went back to their student accommodation for get togethers. I went running with a teacher friend this afternoon and her late-teenage kids were all at parties.
 
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