Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ayrshire_blue said:
Drives me to despair. Fuckwits everywhere, but a lot of them come out of the woodwork on 'old firm day' as if it means something. Not scared to boast about it all over social media either. Anyway, I'm ranting again haha. Guess I'm just pissed off I'm seeing so many people in a different light than I first did.
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you said it, they are everywhere, our road was pretty busy NYE between 6pm and 10pm. Where on earth were people legitamately going? I am sure the vast majority were just breaking the rules.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Medics complain of 'bureaucracy' in bid to join Covid vaccine effort

Healthcare workers have criticised the red tape and paperwork needed to become an NHS vaccinator.
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This is the kind of ridiculous nonsense and redtape that a team of jobsworths in the department of health are no doubt responsible for. I feel this country is far too weighed down with this type of tick box bureaucracy.
 
blueparrot said:
I’m not convinced Christmas Day will be the big spreader a lot think. Most families I know only seemed to see grandparents if anyone from outside their households, and then only for a few hours with precautions. There doesn’t seem to much meeting through the rest of the holiday period.
I’m sure there were instances of bad behaviour, however I wonder if that will be counter balanced by most of us off work, and schools on holiday. Pubs and restaurants in most places shut except takeaway.
Not saying there won’t be Christmas spread, just not sure we will see it as a big rise from where we are with cases from the last few weeks.
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I’ll offer an alternative experience. I know a lad who held a NYE party in his flat in Trafford. The last two days he’s travelled to a gym in Huyton to workout.
 
One of the reasons that I think the Oxford vaccine is being rolled out 'slowly' at first is to complete something they call Vaccine surveillance.

I read an article that talked about the rollout in NHS hospitals referencing vaccine surveillance and I wondered what it was. This is what it entails:

  • Detection, correction and prevention of immunization errors,
  • Identification of potential problems with specific vaccine lots,
  • Prevention of false blame from coincidental events,
  • Maintenance of confidence in the programme by properly responding to parent/community concerns,
  • Identification of signals for unexpected adverse events and generation of hypotheses to be tested by controlled studies,
  • Estimation of AEFI rates in local populations,
  • Support to formulate and adjust contraindications, risk/benefit equations, and provider and patient information.
I just mention it as I think it shows that this requires some preparation.

Source: vaccine safety training
 
BlueHammer85 said:
does the mail have to mention the Blitz in every headline
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I know but earlier in the day I was reading the discussion about whether the UK was slow to roll out the vaccine and I was thinking about how the UK compares to other nations. Generally everyone bar Israel seems to have massively under-hit their targets e.g. US achieved 3m but had targeted 20m.

I was thinking that UK civil society just doesn't have the dynamism and activism of some countries but then you see articles like this. It's difficult to really understand what's going on at the moment when we're all isolated.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Medics complain of 'bureaucracy' in bid to join Covid vaccine effort

Healthcare workers have criticised the red tape and paperwork needed to become an NHS vaccinator.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

This is the kind of ridiculous nonsense and redtape that a team of jobsworths in the department of health are no doubt responsible for. I feel this country is far too weighed down with this type of tick box bureaucracy.
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Yep. Every hospital has a gaggle of jobsworths
 
Marvin said:
I know but earlier in the day I was reading the discussion about whether the UK was slow to roll out the vaccine and I was thinking about how the UK compares to other nations. Generally everyone bar Israel seems to have massively under-hit their targets e.g. US achieved 3m but had targeted 20m.

I was thinking that UK civil society just doesn't have the dynamism and activism of some countries but then you see articles like this. It's difficult to really understand what's going on at the moment when we're all isolated.
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We're doing pretty well. But we need to do better.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Enormous sample.
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The point Heald Place was making is that we are yet to see in the figures the infections that occurred on Xmas day, in response to a poster who said Xmas day mixing wouldn’t have much of an effect. Yes, Christmas wasn’t normal this year in the sense ppl weren’t cramming around the Xmas markets and piling into pubs, but specifically on Xmas day (the part of Xmas being discussed) there will be large sections of the population who had a ‘normal’ Xmas day like myself and most of the ppl I know did.
 
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