Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BigOscar]

It was only this morning that Hancock was wheeled out on all morning shows proclaiming same, pathetic.

Fully in keeping with their "keep saying things are fine for as long as you can, then all of sudden declare the complete opposite when the media pressure gets too much" policy. Absolute shit houses

 

[BlueAnorak]

Can somebody answer what is probably a very simple question.

Why do Scotland, Wales etc just announce that something is happening without having to vote on it, whilst we have to put it through Commons to vote on?

Or am I missing something obvious here.

More concerned with looking proactive than accessing the situation properly and how it will effect the economy.

 

[blueparrot]

She's only jumped the gun from yesterday's COBRA meeting

No this was happening whatever Jonhson does or doesn’t decide. We don’t even know yet whether Johnson will go lockdown for everywhere or fiddle about with a new 5th tier and leave some in other tiers.

 

[meltonblue]

If he closes the schools tonight, it needs to be seriously questioned why they didn’t do it at the weekend and have allowed them to be open today. It’s shutting the door (again) after the horse will have already bolted.

 

[grunge]

You do know it takes 3-5 days for 90% for people to get ill once infected. Look at the PHE reports on where infections are taking place

Yep. Average is 5 days. but going by yours, 3-5 days to get ill. massive spike 4 days after Christmas day.

will be interesting to see if that calms down a bit when the data is processed or if the spike continues.

but all in all, there hasn't been a plateu when you go by dates of test. A lot will be driven by people running from London on the 19th mind you then infecting people who then all mingled at Christmas.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I think 2nd wave Scotland have done quite a lot better.

Only because it hasn't got intrenched there yet

 

[Len Rum]

Tonight it would appear.
Boris is speaking to the nation tonight at 8pm.

Excellent.
Well done Nicola and Keith.

 

[squirtyflower]

Sadly I expect Boris to be as decisive around the 32nd of January.

So you want us to have a dictator that brings in a totalitarian regime and lock people up?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Warrington rates have doubled in two weeks. Almost 1000 cases in the week up to 30 Dec.I would imagine next weeks figures will be higher as Xmas mixing likely to have kicked in.

 

[1.618034]

So we’re going to find out after her
8pm whether our 7 year old daughter is back in school tomorrow?
I’ve already told her that she might not be but she’ll be absolutely gutted. So will I.
Can’t they do it before so we know rather than have to tell her in the morning.
I know in the scheme of things it’s not the end of the world, but come on, why 8pm??

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Tonight it would appear.
Boris is speaking to the nation tonight at 8pm.

And Parliament recalled

 

[blueparrot]

 

[Marvin]

Total scare story stuff. The Sage member who spread this story needs to be sacked from Sage as his comments go against all scientific method.
There are 7 vaccines in use across the world now; Pfizer, Moderna, Oxford, 1 Russian, 1 Indian and 2 Chinese. All target different parts of the spike protein chains. Unless the virus has totally changed its Spike protein a good proportion of the vaccines will still work and the Oxford vaccine can be retargetted within 3 months (with re-approval).

The spike protein is a highly complex and folded protein that takes up a 3D structure dependent on environmental conditions and its solvent but if you alter the amino acid sequence you potentially change the 3D structure and hence forcefields that control neutralisation reactions.

 

[Gabriel]

My fear in Scotland, and its maybe an area where I would criticise Sturgeon's approach, is that the rules are still too open to exploitation. Leaving it up to businesses and employers to decide and asking for their help rather than telling them to shut isn't great. I'd have went one step further than she's gone and announced that if your shop or business was shut in March then it's shut now. Construction etc the same, everything absolutely non essential shut. Trade shops only open for people with trade cards who are called to genuine emergencies - plumbers and electricians mainly.

I still forsee too many businesses staying open to prioritise a quick buck.

Who would have an accurate record of that, however, other than the business itself?

Even if Police Scotland proactively enforce the new restrictions, there will always be those who flout them. Perhaps the fear of bringing the virus back into their own households will bring them to their senses. Then again...

 

[squirtyflower]

Excellent.
Well done Nicola and Keith.

Excellent indeed.
Left wing post from left wing poster praising left wing politicians for introducing a totalitarian regime that locks up it citizens on pain of being incarcerated in jail.

Power to the people! Unless they are real people of course, then you take their power away.

 

[BlueAnorak]

So you want us to have a dictator that brings in a totalitarian regime and lock people up?

Some people like that

 

[JamesMCFC]

Hopefully, we get proper questions from Journalists tonight like "What are the criteria for lifting restrictions?" "How many people have been vaccinated so far?" "How long do you envisage this long down to last?"

No point every other question being "Why didn't you lockdown sooner?"

 

[carlosthejackal]

If he closes the schools tonight, it needs to be seriously questioned why they didn’t do it at the weekend and have allowed them to be open today. It’s shutting the door (again) after the horse will have already bolted.

As soon as the unions voiced concerns it became political for Johnson and co , political dogma over people’s health .

 

[squirtyflower]

Some people like that

It amazes me how easily people just want to give up all their freedoms, is it fear?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

So we’re going to find out after her
8pm whether our 7 year old daughter is back in school tomorrow?
I’ve already told her that she might not be but she’ll be absolutely gutted. So will I.
Can’t they do it before so we know rather than have to tell her in the morning.
I know in the scheme of things it’s not the end of the world, but come on, why 8pm??

Given the flack Johnson got for announcing tier 4 expansion after Parliament rose for Xmas and denying MPs a vote and that he has recalled parliament tomorrow I suspect he may announce measures tonight to be implemented on Wednesday after a vote.