Coronavirus (2021) thread

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gazinho said:
He most certainly didn't, he said it wouldn't be fair for ALL exams to go ahead as normal, that is utterly ambiguous in the extreme.

I get you tend to defend things he does and that's completely fine as is your right but please don't try to make out he's said things that he hasn't.

I genuinely couldn't give less of a shit about political bias im not Labour nor Conservative all I care about are my family and friends and this position we find ourselves in, 10 months down the line from when we were in this exact same position, affects those closest to me hence my anger and utter contempt for the circus that weve got telling us what to do
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Gove confirmed it today

Gove confirms GCSE and A-level exams cancelled​

GCSE and A-level exams have been cancelled in England for this year, Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove has confirmed.
Announcing the new lockdown for England, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said schools and colleges in England would close to most pupils until at least half term.
A government source had told the BBC GCSE and A-level exams would be cancelled, but vocational exams would go ahead.
Gove confirmed the news on Radio 4's Today programme.
He said Education Secretary Gavin Williamson was talking to exam regulator Ofqual about how best to assess pupils.
 
meltonblue said:
Exactly what I’d do and now we’ve got the additional restrictions back in, I think they might.

One key thing still missing to me though, we have to have mandatory testing and/or quarantining at all border entries too.

Its mind bogglingly idiotic we haven’t done that already months ago.
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You aren’t allowed in to the UK from today without a negative test in the previous 72 hours.
 
ganganvince said:
They don't test anywhere near as many as we do I would guess a couple of weeks down the line we could see hospitalisations increase across Europe.
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Even still, they were finding 50k cases in France of the 'original' strain per day not too long ago, it's inconceivable that they're now reporting 10k cases per day (or 4k in yesterday's case!) if this new strain is over there, and also seems equally as inconceivable that the new strain *wouldn't* be over there. I take BA's point on board about population density, but even with that factor it just seems all a bit strange. I'm in no way calling conspiracy or some shite btw, just puzzled by this.
 
squirtyflower said:
But they are expected to pass it as well, not just read it. I did level 1 and 2 at work and it took three full days of training.
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It says 'Duration: Approx. 1 hour' on there so not sure if we're referring to the same thing? I really don't think that's unreasonable personally. I also do expect some level of qualifications for anyone sticking a needle in my arm.
 
twosips said:
Tbf, just scrolled through that, and that's not really that much is it? It'll take about 15 minutes to read. Big text, lots of images, lots of the pages are indexes. It's nowt.
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Actually we’re missing the point here.

These people are retired. They have been asked to come back and help out.
wWhy make them jump through bureaucratic hoops to get them to do it. No wonder they are binning it off, I would Too.
 
squirtyflower said:
But they are expected to pass it as well, not just read it. I did level 1 and 2 at work and it took three full days of training.
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It could be an online thing with questions at the end, and every employee in the organisation will have to do it every couple of years. The radicalisation training for prevent was exactly that, takes about an hour.
 
iceman said:
If 30 million people can vote on election day why can't we have a vaccination wk and get the whole country done it takes 2 mins to vote 2 mins for injection or is that me being stupid?
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I think you know the answer...
 
squirtyflower said:
Actually we’re missing the point here.

These people are retired. They have been asked to come back and help out.
wWhy make them jump through bureaucratic hoops to get them to do it. No wonder they are binning it off, I would Too.
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Cos isn't that life serving in the medical profession? Isn't it always like that? Surely we should have been ahead of this months ago getting them ready for this moment. They're good people wanting to help out. A short mid morning course isn't a huge deal if it helps save lives is it? I presumed they'd be used to courses and so on being former NHS staff. It can't be a surprise really. If they don't want to do it, fair enough, but I don't think a quick refresher course is a great reason personally given they know this is probably normal in the NHS.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Yeah that's what's puzzling me. Figures seem at least stable everywhere else, I'd have expected it to be sky rocketing like us by now. It's just really hard to believe they've managed to catch every case early enough and take the necessary measures with it and it's not already going through communities.
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It took 3 months to gain traction here. 1st spotted in Sept, wasn't until mid Nov it gained traction. May have a similar lead time elsewhere too.
 
squirtyflower said:
Really?

https://www.mansfieldandashfieldccg...ity-awareness-level-1-workbook-28-03-2017.pdf

40 page work book and assessment for just one of them.
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That’s 30mins work.
Dentists and military medics will be aufait with most of the mandatory topics and will generally opt to take the assessment straight away.
Sticking a needle in someone’s arm and pressing a plunger isn’t the most difficult task in the world but when something goes wrong you’d expect the vaccinator to be able to manage the situation.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
There's something I don't get regarding the new variant. They've found isolated cases of it in various EU countries, but for some reason it's not spread there anything like it has over here. It sounds as though they've been really really lucky and managed to catch the only very few cases withinn these other countries before it's spread any further, which seems unlikely given how transmissible we're told it is.

Even with the banning of UK flights etc, surely the chances are it was too late and already spreading, but we're not seeing that in daily figures at all?
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On the subject of flights I noticed that there are quite a few going out today to places like Tenerife and Lanzarote and even the Caribbean. Presumably these will be to pick people up will they as I thought all non essential travel was banned ?
 
squirtyflower said:
Really?

https://www.mansfieldandashfieldccg...ity-awareness-level-1-workbook-28-03-2017.pdf

40 page work book and assessment for just one of them.
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This is E-learning for Health (Government funded) courses that tend to be over the top. Most of these courses can be completed on-line quickly.

For NHS Trusts, getting staff to complete these stat and man courses contributes to reducing their insurance bills. All these courses might be overkill for volunteers, though.
 
Pedestrian said:
That’s 30mins work.
Dentists and military medics will be aufait with most of the mandatory topics and will generally opt to take the assessment straight away.
Sticking a needle in someone’s arm and pressing a plunger isn’t the most difficult task in the world but when something goes wrong you’d expect the vaccinator to be able to manage the situation.
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I do agree but there are other ways, You have to be monitored for 15 mins post injection to monitor for any allergic reactions. could have an injection room and a recovery room. 20/30 people vaccinating and 2/3 medics manning the recovery room if something goes wrong.
 
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