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Nightmare Walking said:
Has anyone received their clinically vulnerable letter yet? Last time I did not get it till 2 weeks after it was dated.
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My friend was nearly a month after that and missed weeks of food deliveries because of it.

That was the day Boris lost her vote as she had voted for him but was given all kinds of waffle as to what went wrong in this 'rare' error.

I assume rare in this context as in the sense of world beating rarity of occurrence.

aka far too common.
 
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Healdplace said:
Care hoes with cases. Same for the 133 in Northern Ireland.

Care homes with at least one proven case. Which is often soon more than one, of course.
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Scary, vaccines will be too late for these homes, this could be thousands of deaths just from that info
 
Healdplace said:
The England hospital deaths in past week allocated to the actual day of death is starting to show the consequences of those worryingly fast rising ventilator numbers I have been posting in recent days.

These are the last 3 weeks by date and number of England hospital deaths on the ACTUAL day. They paint a very disturbing upward track.


17 Dec 332

18 Dec 308

19 Dec 286

20 Dec 319

21 Dec 358

22 Dec 368

23 Dec 343

24 Dec 331

25 Dec 398

26 Dec 416

27 Dec 420

28 Dec 406

29 Dec 415

30 Dec 432

31 Dec 431

1 Jan 423

2 Jan 408 This is the first 5 day total over 400 (wk to wk before 5 day totals were 354 v 267 v 261 v 224)

3 Jan 391 (at 4 days only) Highest 4 day total since 22 April (two weeks after wave 1 peak)

4 Jan 426 (at 3 days only) Highest 3 day total since 20 April (ten days after wave 1 peak)

5 Jan 347 (at two days only) Highest 2 day total 22 April.

6 Jan (yesterday) is at 88 after just 1 day. This is the highest day one number since 24 April.

We are going to have 500 on the day England hospital days soon and unless we turn things round soon it may not stop there.

We reached 800 + a few days at the peak of wave 1 in April for context. Were we nit saving many more lives now we would be past there already.

But hospital numbers are already in many places well above the wave 1 peak. So if these keep rising even with a lower death rate we are heading up towards matching those numbers day by day.

Hopefully the vaccine plus lockdown will slow that down but it is likely a week or two yet before we see that and this new variant is very much more infective than the one we had in April.

Recall these are England only and hospital only - so around a half to two thirds of the daily reported deaths.
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You need to send these figures to the BBC and ITV who both reported last night that the UK had over 1,000 deaths in the last 24 hours rather than over 1,000 reported in the last 24 hours. Wanted to put my foot through the TV. Whilst every death is awful the media keep painting a far worse picture than is necessary. Surely they can't all be stupid enough to not realise the difference.
 
Great going up there in Scotland, really pleased for them...had some good news today here also that we are getting the first batches of the Moderna vaccine on Sunday on top of the, Pfizer being rolled out already.

Scotland is "well over half way through" giving all of its care home residents the first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says.

By Sunday, more than 113,000 people had their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and within a week about 1,100 vaccination centres are expected to be operational.

Sturgeon says it is particularly important to vaccinate people in care homes as they account for about a third of Covid deaths in the past week. Scotland has about 30,000 residents living in care homes for older people.

The government has set a target of giving a first dose to everyone over the age of 80 in Scotland within the next four weeks
 
BlueAnorak said:
Interesting to know the number has fallen considerably closer to the numbers died within 28 days of a test or admittance. Quite a lot must have died slightly early than they would have.
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Yes that might be the case and protective measures might have reduced flu deaths etc. Overall, the number of excess deaths are in line with the national Covid death figures.
 
Eds said:
You need to send these figures to the BBC and ITV who both reported last night that the UK had over 1,000 deaths in the last 24 hours rather than over 1,000 reported in the last 24 hours. Wanted to put my foot through the TV. Whilst every death is awful the media keep painting a far worse picture than is necessary. Surely they can't all be stupid enough to not realise the difference.
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Whilst that is true there WERE 1000 not previously reported deaths yesterday.

It is a set number that will always stay true and adds to the overall total which is also accurate.

The day to day actual deaths change every day often for many weeks.

So you cannot report them on the news.

Its been debated in here in the past and the bottom line is whilst it should be clarified what they usually say is not actually false.

Unless as they sometimes do they slip and say 1000 died yesterday. That is untrue. But 1000 new deaths were reported yesterday is true.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
Has anyone received their clinically vulnerable letter yet? Last time I did not get it till 2 weeks after it was dated.
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No mate my wife is she has not got one yet, last time they didn't send the letter she had to phone up about it to get it confirmed. She teaches Maths the school head has mandated by email all staff go in regardless if they can WFH or not basically contravening government guidelines. No wonder things are in the state they are. She had a hospital appointment today the doctor couldn't believe it. Thinking of calling local newspaper.
 
Healdplace said:
Care homes with cases. Same for the 133 in Northern Ireland.

Care homes with at least one proven case. Which is often soon more than one, of course.
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Staff or residents? My daughters place has just had another outbreak of false positives amongst the staff. I'd very much doubt it's an isolated incident especially since it's the second one in the last two months.
 
Healdplace said:
Whilst that is true there WERE 1000 not previously reported deaths yesterday.

It is a set number that will always stay true and adds to the overall total which is also accurate.

The day to day actual deaths change every day often for many weeks.

So you cannot report them on the news.

Its been debated in here in the past and the bottom line is whilst it should be clarified what they usually say is not actually false.

Unless as they sometimes do they slip and say 1000 died yesterday. That is untrue. But 1000 new deaths were reported yesterday is true.
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They said more than 1,000 died in the past 24 hours rather than reported
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Stepped on scales today and not exactly shocked to learn I lost 29 pounds in four weeks.

Gonna take a while to get that back.

I've lost something more, not sure what.

Probably a sense of my own mortality for the first time in my 46 years.
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Holy shit Tolm, 29 pounds? You really must have been hit hard. Just get better; you will slowly get it back. After all, you are still a young 'un, despite this. ;)
 
Gov UK have added today a new vaccinations page with all the data and graphs week to week. Across the UK and all 4 nations.
 
WNRH said:
Popped into my workplace office block at lunchtime to get stuff to work from home and pick up post.

First lockdown it was empty.

Today, as busy as it is on any normal day, full of people mingling in communal areas.

Also noticed the roads are no different than any other time.

This will go on longer than March as no one appears to be listening to the current restrictions.
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Been on the road today, Middleton, Sandbach, Leigh and a few GM areas later in the day. Definitely less busy on the roads this morning (didn't go until 10am so can't comment on rush hour), motorways discernibly quieter. Also spoke to a few people who told me more staff have been furloughed this week. Been past a few schools, all open and enough vehicles on the car parks to raise eyebrows. Teachers seemingly being asked to go beyond the line of duty.
 
Healdplace said:
My friend was nearly a month after that and missed weeks of food deliveries because of it.

That was the day Boris lost her vote as she had voted for him but was given all kinds of waffle as to what went wrong in this 'rare' error.

I assume rare in this context as in the sense of world beating rarity of occurrence.

aka far too common.
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thepolarbear said:
No mate my wife is she has not got one yet, last time they didn't send the letter she had to phone up about it to get it confirmed. She teaches Maths the school head has mandated by email all staff go in regardless if they can WFH or not basically contravening government guidelines. No wonder things are in the state they are. She had a hospital appointment today the doctor couldn't believe it. Thinking of calling local newspaper.
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I am really poorly at the minute and it would be nice to get work of my back. I might just get a sick note off doctor, then hand in the letter when it comes.

Thanks for your replies.
 
stonerblue said:
Wife's doc told her yesterday that government are full of shit with their vaccine roll out announcements and what he sees is nothing like their spin.
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Total opposite of what a NHS trust assistant director of comms told me yesterday. He told me that getting enough vaccine made,patient lists and vaccine systems are working well right now, hitting daily jab capacities easily. He doesn't see a problem with 2m jabs per week being achieved very soon.
 
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