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Anyone else play the market ?

I started investing heavily in when the pandemic took hold and have seen some nice returns now the FTSE is recovering.

Any shares, tips, advice always welcomed. Never stop learning.
 
Anyone else play the market ?

I started investing heavily in when the pandemic took hold and have seen some nice returns now the FTSE is recovering.

Any shares, tips, advice always welcomed. Never stop learning.
Never dabbled myself what's best app for buying and selling
 
Anyone on here taking advantage of the TUI rights issue ?
Yep. Will be doing.
Bought into TUI as a bit of a gamble last March when they'd crashed to below £3. I'm currently up 40% on that investment (65% before today's rights issue related price drop) and when Covid restrictions start being lifted I reckon business will boom when everyone wants to go abroad on holiday. Any leisure/holiday companies that have survived will thrive imo. I can only see upside.
25 new shares for every 29 held at €1.07 per share is the offer and there's no payout if it's not exercised so it seems to be a no brainer.
Furthermore, todays share price drop of 16% (at the moment) which relates to the "ex-entitlement" value is a lot less than what would have happened to effectively just stand still. This means that by not going for it you would be effectively throwing money away. If my calculations are correct the market reaction equates to a 38% overall boost should you take up the offer. I might be a bit out with that but it definitely indicates a positive market reaction. Will know for sure when the "pre-emptive rights" are credited on Tuesday.
 
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Any thoughts on where you might go next WW, legal and general was a good shout that could well hit 30% growth like you said at the time but you’ve won either way by getting out now so fair play to you mate.

i have banked half of what i have made and am going to buy gold with it and 10 pre war (1920s) Fa Cup Final football programmes (the retirement gig is to deal in football memorabilia) just leave them in a safe and the other half which is essentially not far off where i started i have bought shares in Rolls Royce engines at 108p and will hold until they double. That will happen in next ten years. is a brave one in the current climate but at some stage people will be flying again and it is a long term hold. I see it has been close to 400p at some stage in the past.

I tend to try and hold no more than 10 share holdings at any one time as otherwise you cant keep knowledge of them and i only have real significant money in one or two at a time. I am no expert and tend to go on my gut and the fact i wont need to cash out.
 
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Yep. Will be doing.
Bought into TUI as a bit of a gamble last March when they'd crashed to below £3. I'm currently up 40% on that investment (65% before today's rights issue related price drop) and when Covid restrictions start being lifted I reckon business will boom when everyone wants to go abroad on holiday. Any leisure/holiday companies that have survived will thrive imo. I can only see upside.
25 new shares for every 29 held at €1.07 per share is the offer and there's no payout if it's not exercised so it seems to be a no brainer.
Furthermore, todays share price drop of 16% (at the moment) which relates to the "ex-entitlement" value is a lot less than what would have happened to effectively just stand still. This means that by not going for it you would be effectively throwing money away. If my calculations are correct the market reaction equates to a 38% overall boost should you take up the offer. I might be a bit out with that but it definitely indicates a positive market reaction. Will know for sure when the "pre-emptive rights" are credited on Tuesday.
That's really helpful mate- thank you. Glad your thinking on it is the same as mine !

I also bought into TUI in March when they crashed and similar to you the return to date on the investment has been great.

As you say it's a no brainer to take up the rights issue.
 
i have banked half of what i have made and am going to buy gold with it and 10 pre war (1920s) Fa Cup Final football programmes (the retirement gig is to deal in football memorabilia) just leave them in a safe and the other half which is essentially not far off where i started i have bought shares in Rolls Royce engines at 108p and will hold until they double. That will happen in next ten years. is a brave one in the current climate but at some stage people will be flying again and it is a long term hold. I see it has been close to 400p at some stage in the past.

I tend to try and hold no more than 10 share holdings at any one time as otherwise you cant keep knowledge of them and i only have real significant money in one or two at a time. I am no expert and tend to go on my gut and the fact i wont need to cash out.
Brilliant, sounds like a good plan for an enjoyable retirement, best of luck with the programmes when you eventually decide to hang up the boots! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, your insight is much appreciated. I completely agree, there is a temptation to spread things too thin so I try to stick with no more than three at a time, go in as big as I can without risking divorce and think long term.

I’ve done OK on Pets at Home and B&M over the years by playing the long game but there were plenty of bumps along the way but I fannied around on legal and general. Rolls Royce is a good call and has been mentioned on here before for the right reasons so I’m in now too mate.
 
i have banked half of what i have made and am going to buy gold with it and 10 pre war (1920s) Fa Cup Final football programmes (the retirement gig is to deal in football memorabilia) just leave them in a safe and the other half which is essentially not far off where i started i have bought shares in Rolls Royce engines at 108p and will hold until they double. That will happen in next ten years. is a brave one in the current climate but at some stage people will be flying again and it is a long term hold. I see it has been close to 400p at some stage in the past.

I tend to try and hold no more than 10 share holdings at any one time as otherwise you cant keep knowledge of them and i only have real significant money in one or two at a time. I am no expert and tend to go on my gut and the fact i wont need to cash out.
The FAC final programmes, is interesting to me as I have in my possession a 1910 FAC final prog, well its basically a card with front 2 centre and a back, was made by WH Smith in those days, Newcastle v Barnsley at Crystal Palace
I had it valued for insurance purposes about 15 years ago and it was between £8-£12k then.
I think football memorabillia isn't as high in value as it was, due to the internet, meaning these things are a little bit more known about and more accesable now, but I have never seen a 1910 FAC final prog for sale or available, there was one sold I think in 2008 which fetched around £3k but nothing I'm aware of since, that final went to a replay at Goodison and I believe that programme is ultra rare

Worsley If you get an idea of current expected prices for early FAC final programmes can you please let me know, it would be appreciated, thanks

Sorry to divert the thread, but I suppose investing in football memorabillia is investing when all said and done
 
i have banked half of what i have made and am going to buy gold with it and 10 pre war (1920s) Fa Cup Final football programmes (the retirement gig is to deal in football memorabilia) just leave them in a safe and the other half which is essentially not far off where i started i have bought shares in Rolls Royce engines at 108p and will hold until they double. That will happen in next ten years. is a brave one in the current climate but at some stage people will be flying again and it is a long term hold. I see it has been close to 400p at some stage in the past.

I tend to try and hold no more than 10 share holdings at any one time as otherwise you cant keep knowledge of them and i only have real significant money in one or two at a time. I am no expert and tend to go on my gut and the fact i wont need to cash out.
Somebody gave me a few cup final programmes about 35 years ago.
I’ve got the 1972 (or 1973, I can’t remember) programme that looks like it was signed by the Leeds players. I wonder how much that’s worth?
 
Quick question, my circumstances are about to change and I will be around £600 a month better off, I have a Vanguard ISA account that I recently set up and also have a company pension.

I want to make this extra money work and so I am considering putting it into the Pension or the Vanguard.

Not sure which would be best, I know if i put it into the pension it will be tied up.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Depends what tax rate you are. Pension will benefit most if you are 40% as you get that as tax relief. Does the company match what you put in-if so then they may increase their contribution if you uncrease yours. ISA if you think you may need the money before 55 or 57 when they raise the age to get a pension in a few years. Split it between the 2. I'm no expert but everybody's different so no hard and fast answer.
 
Yes, NIO up more than 5% pre-market. Be interesting to see what happens on NIO day tomorrow.
Hopefully we hear some news not out in the public domain we know about the ET7 sedan to be launched, the 150kw/h 560mile battery pack, the new 2.0 battery swap station roll out and the possible introduction of an entry level sedan also, all this I would say is baked into the current SP I don't think any of this will push the SP much after NIO day, in fact with nothing new I'm expecting a pullback

But what I'm hoping to hear is new possible partnerships (apple or VW??) or

the big one for me a factory!!!!

ramping up production which will be required to pump out the vehicle numbers they want over the next 2 years reaching 300k by 2023 a new facility will be needed

after all the $2.5bn from the recent offering was for something add to that the $3.5bn cash on hand already in place,
and I'm dreaming of a new factory, if this happens NIO will be triple digits by May this year, so let's hope we get a nice suprise from NIO day
All this is of course wishful thinking on my part
 
Somebody gave me a few cup final programmes about 35 years ago.
I’ve got the 1972 (or 1973, I can’t remember) programme that looks like it was signed by the Leeds players. I wonder how much that’s worth?
Won't be worth much mate a quick ebay search will give you an idea, the real money is in pre war FAC final programmes and that's why Worsley is looking at pre 1920s as that is where the real big money, for programmes is
 
Depends what tax rate you are. Pension will benefit most if you are 40% as you get that as tax relief. Does the company match what you put in-if so then they may increase their contribution if you uncrease yours. ISA if you think you may need the money before 55 or 57 when they raise the age to get a pension in a few years. Split it between the 2. I'm no expert but everybody's different so no hard and fast answer.

Yeah it's difficult to know what is best, I am under the upper tax thresh hold so don't pay the 40%, I have maxed out the company pension with me and my employer both putting in 9% each at this point, The money I want to put away is soley for retirement so i have no plans on touching it for at least the next 12 years.
 
The FAC final programmes, is interesting to me as I have in my possession a 1910 FAC final prog, well its basically a card with front 2 centre and a back, was made by WH Smith in those days, Newcastle v Barnsley at Crystal Palace
I had it valued for insurance purposes about 15 years ago and it was between £8-£12k then.
I think football memorabillia isn't as high in value as it was, due to the internet, meaning these things are a little bit more known about and more accesable now, but I have never seen a 1910 FAC final prog for sale or available, there was one sold I think in 2008 which fetched around £3k but nothing I'm aware of since, that final went to a replay at Goodison and I believe that programme is ultra rare

Worsley If you get an idea of current expected prices for early FAC final programmes can you please let me know, it would be appreciated, thanks

Sorry to divert the thread, but I suppose investing in football memorabillia is investing when all said and done

well the 1904 one with City recently went for 20k!
 
Brilliant, sounds like a good plan for an enjoyable retirement, best of luck with the programmes when you eventually decide to hang up the boots! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, your insight is much appreciated. I completely agree, there is a temptation to spread things too thin so I try to stick with no more than three at a time, go in as big as I can without risking divorce and think long term.

I’ve done OK on Pets at Home and B&M over the years by playing the long game but there were plenty of bumps along the way but I fannied around on legal and general. Rolls Royce is a good call and has been mentioned on here before for the right reasons so I’m in now too mate.

Sorry to divert the thread but I have pretty much every city programme home and away to 1945 and about 200 pre war. I also have 4000 West Ham programmes, 2000 arsenal and about 1000 Chelsea. I have every Fa cup final post war and about 20 pre war (many doubles) and also I collect old shoot magazines (1716 to collect and I have 1400). I have every champions league final and league cup final programme and most World Cup final programmes back to 1930z All stored well and I am 44 and plan is to leave for ten / fifteen years and I will selll at fairs and events as a hobby. I enjoy owning something tangible once i have made a Profit on the shares as otherwise it feels like roulette where eventually you lose. I was lucky enough to get into property when I used to get mortgages on a self cert basis (basically I lied about what I was earning and borrowed like fuck when I was young) and fell very lucky on timings between 2000 and 2007 and it left me in a decent position but years of issues with tenants have soured it a bit for me as it upsets me seeing people trash properties and the tax rules have fucked it in recent years . A lot of mine were piss poor terraces in stoke and Oldham that I am now trying to get shot of for a simpler life. The shares are better at times as you are not having to deal with people and broken boilers!!!

Property programmes and shares!

Diversification. Mind you I spend fuck all so dont really need anything.
 
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