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It's a bit late isn't it?
I presume that any change in sentiment is purely an arse covering excercise.
it’s all about barring him from running in 2024.


Not enough time left to impeach the barmpot.
He can be impeached and “removed” even after he’s left office which would prevent him ever running for a federal office again.
 
I may have misread your post, but to confirm, Cruz voted ‘Not Guilty’ on both articles of impeachment, so would not be among the original 48 (Article I, which saw Romney become the only Republican that joined the Democrats) or 47 (Article II) that found Trump guilty in the first impeachment proceedings.
Sory - yes Romney not Cruz.
 
Styling it out like a champ, Seb. ;-)

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I have learned much from @gordondaviesmoustache.
 
It's all about that for those that want it. How likely is it that enough votes are for finding him guilty this time?

Trump has been a full on disaster for the GOP. And there is no sign of him going away. This is the last chance for them (establishment Reps) to kill him off. Yes its bad for the relations with the base but you could have some who want to run themselves in 2024 and they know if they can exclude Trump now at this point then that is half the battle won. The whole MAGA base will go nuts and many will want to disown the GOP. That works as well as Ivanka and Jnr etc would have to plead with the base to get back involved and back them as Rep candidiates - but why would they when the GOP turned on Trump in the end. And a new MAGA party has zero chance. It would be a shit show from start to finish.

It makes a lot of sense for Establishment GOP to vote to convict right now - its a now or never chance to remove the cancer. Yes they would weaken themselves but longer term it really helps them move on.
 
George Conway tweeting they've got the numbers for a vote. Just needs Moscow Mitch to go straight for it rather than debate.
 
Trump has been a full on disaster for the GOP. And there is no sign of him going away. This is the last chance for them (establishment Reps) to kill him off. Yes its bad for the relations with the base but you could have some who want to run themselves in 2024 and they know if they can exclude Trump now at this point then that is half the battle won. The whole MAGA base will go nuts and many will want to disown the GOP. That works as well as Ivanka and Jnr etc would have to plead with the base to get back involved and back them as Rep candidiates - but why would they when the GOP turned on Trump in the end. And a new MAGA party has zero chance. It would be a shit show from start to finish.

It makes a lot of sense for Establishment GOP to vote to convict right now - its a now or never chance to remove the cancer. Yes they would weaken themselves but longer term it really helps them move on.
I agree that is what they should do, I'm just not convinced that they will do.
 
Going to be quite amusing when all of these get to court to see what their defence is and how many blame Trump for it...
“Your honour, I submit to the court the following 7,219 TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, Parlor, Instagram, 4chan, 8kun, and Reddit posts as evidence of the premeditated acts of sedition and insurrection undertaken by the defendant.”
 
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