#14 | Aymeric Laporte - 2020/21 Performances

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Potentially another 37 games to go in 4 1/2 months - he'll get plenty of game time even if he remains 3rd choice.
And, of course, the opportunity to reclaim his place if one of Stones or Dias is injured. That's assuming Eric is fit himself..

Only discovered the other day that Stones. Ake and Laporte all share the same agent.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
Potentially another 37 games to go in 4 1/2 months - he'll get plenty of game time even if he remains 3rd choice.
And, of course, the opportunity to reclaim his place if one of Stones or Dias is injured. That's assuming Eric is fit himself..

Only discovered the other day that Stones. Ake and Laporte all share the same agent.
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Theres no way he excepts being third choice hes one of the beat center backs in the world he can pretty much get into any team he wants. Im very worried he'll leave for barca or madrid in the summer.
 
Paul1970 said:
I’d rather us sign a proper left back than carry on putting make shift ones on that side as it does make us week and teams will expose it . As for Laporte if he doesn’t or can’t get back into the team then he will almost certainly move on which will be a huge mistake to let that happen . Top centre half’s are very hard to get hold off and to actually let a world class one go is crazy in my eyes but I do get the situation that stones is playing well aswell but I do think Dias and Laporte is better in the long run .
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So what should we do? Bench and breakup the best Combo we've seen in years? Just on a hunch that a different combo might be better?


Here is the thing, while Larpote has been more consistent playing at a high level (his mistakes here and there notwithstanding), John Stones highest level has actually been higher than Laporte's just not as consistent.

So while Larpote has been a better player in there time here overall, John's peaks have been higher. If John can stay consistently near his peak, he's a better player than Laporte.

And right now Dias's leadership makes him undropable. So either Laporte joins a 3 man rotation dependent on form or sadly he has to leave if he choose.

We sure as heck aren't gonna drop a better playing footballer on fear that another footballer not playing as well might leave.

Makes no sense to me. I say he stays, there's be injuries vrotations and loss of form that will keep all 3 ( perhaps 4 when pretty boy gets healthy) with enough games.
 
cityboy1 said:
Theres no way he excepts being third choice hes one of the beat center backs in the world he can pretty much get into any team he wants. Im very worried he'll leave for barca or madrid in the summer.
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Then he leaves.
 
He won’t leave. It’ll be Dias and Laporte as our main centre backs before too long. I am ecstatic with Stones’ form but it feels like people have quickly forgotten just how good Laporte is. Selling him would be a mistake.
 
Blue Coop said:
He won’t leave. It’ll be Dias and Laporte as our main centre backs before too long. I am ecstatic with Stones’ form but it feels like people have quickly forgotten just how good Laporte is. Selling him would be a mistake.
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I agree selling him would be a really bad mistake and hopefully it will never happen . I can understand that atm John stones is playing probaby the best football of his career and we can’t drop him though . Good problem to have for pep though .
 
No way we should sell Laporte. People are forgetting how good he is.

I don't even think he could be labeled a "backup". He hasn't been fit, and Stones and Dias have been in phenomenal form. Injuries, rough patches, and rest/rotation can and will happen. We have 3 phenomenal CBs to choose from (and that's probably selling Ake short, who I really rate and is no slouch himself), which is a wonderful problem to have.
 
yankblue said:
No way we should sell Laporte. People are forgetting how good he is.

I don't even think he could be labeled a "backup". He hasn't been fit, and Stones and Dias have been in phenomenal form. Injuries, rough patches, and rest/rotation can and will happen. We have 3 phenomenal CBs to choose from (and that's probably selling Ake short, who I really rate and is no slouch himself), which is a wonderful problem to have.
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Again, you guys seem to all be missing the point: NO ONE wants to sell Laporte. But the view has been that he won't settle for being 3rd fiddle and would rather leave...I.e. "He would demand to leave."

I don't see it myself, but if he does then we'd have no choice. So long as John and Dia's are in this mode (which granted, they won't be in forever) he simply CANT start ahead of either!

And for the record, no one has forgotten how good Laporte is, he's simply hasn't been in any partnership this effective. And therefore there is no reason to artificially re-insert him. He simply has to wait until this purple patch is over and then outperform whoever is ahead of him.

Performance and NOT reputation is what should determine who plays.
 
Dax777 said:
Again, you guys seem to all be missing the point: NO ONE wants to sell Laporte. But the view has been that he won't settle for being 3rd fiddle and would rather leave...I.e. "He would demand to leave."

I don't see it myself, but if he does then we'd have no choice. So long as John and Dia's are in this mode (which granted, they won't be in forever) he simply CANT start ahead of either!

And for the record, no one has forgotten how good Laporte is, he's simply hasn't been in any partnership this effective. And therefore there is no reason to artificially re-insert him. He simply has to wait until this purple patch is over and then outperform whoever is ahead of him.

Performance and NOT reputation is what should determine who plays.
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Okay, calm down ... I'm not missing any point or saying he should be "artificially re-inserted". Just stating my opinion he shouldn't be sold and it's a good thing to have multiple CBs to be confident it.
 
Both of our right backs are playing their best football they’ve played for the club, but left back is still an issue.

I’d play Laporte at left back. He’s played there before, very well as well (Liverpool at home two years ago he was excellent!).

Walker/Cancelo———Stones———Dias———Laporte

Walker and Cancelo can get forward and Laporte can hold back.

This would also be a good line-up for Fernandinho in midfield.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Both of our right backs are playing their best football they’ve played for the club, but left back is still an issue.

I’d play Laporte at left back. He’s played there before, very well as well (Liverpool at home two years ago he was excellent!).

Walker/Cancelo———Stones———Dias———Laporte

Walker and Cancelo can get forward and Laporte can hold back.

This would also be a good line-up for Fernandinho in midfield.
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I'm not sure how I feel about Laporte at left back. I would say though that I find it no more ridiculous than suggesting Aké play there, and he seems to be quite a common pick round these parts!
 
I’ve no idea what’s happening with Laporte, whether he’s injured or whether rumours of a bust up are true but we cannot afford to lose him.

We now have the best group of centre halves I can ever remember and he will thrive at another club.

He has to accept that he isn’t a starter at the moment and knuckle down but pep also needs to give him a chance of playing back in to form in the cup games
 
yankblue said:
Okay, calm down ... I'm not missing any point or saying he should be "artificially re-inserted". Just stating my opinion he shouldn't be sold and it's a good thing to have multiple CBs to be confident it.
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Apologise. I was responding to a group of posts not just yours. Didn't mean to sound like I was talking to just you :)
 
mccity said:
I'm not sure how I feel about Laporte at left back. I would say though that I find it no more ridiculous than suggesting Aké play there, and he seems to be quite a common pick round these parts.
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In fairness, Ake plays is a unique case. He plays often at leftback when he plays for Holland. And I believe he got a few games there at Chelsea and on loan. While he was mostly a Centerback at Bournemouth, he is no stranger to the LB position.

And when asked he himself fancies himself a Defensive Midfielder and considers DM his preferred position. So he is truly the definition of utility player.

And I'm a big fan. Looking like Ruud Gullit doesn't hurt either. :)
 
Dax777 said:
In fairness, Ake plays is a unique case. He plays often at leftback when he plays for Holland. And I believe he got a few games there at Chelsea and on loan. While he was mostly a Centerback at Bournemouth, he is no stranger to the LB position.

And when asked he himself fancies himself a Defensive Midfielder and considers DM his preferred position. So he is truly the definition of utility player.

And I'm a big fan. Looking like Ruud Gullit doesn't hurt either. :)
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That's definitely worth considering. But if you can look past Laporte arguably being too large for LB he's got better passing and crossing technique than Aké from what I've seen, and is better in progression.

I'll leave it there though as I don't want to get into a big long discussion and I never really intended to create a debate. Aké is definitely more mobile and it's clear that the club see him as a viable option there and not Laporte, so I'm satisfied.

And yes, looking like Gullit can only be a good thing. It worked for Zinchenko with De Bruyne!
 
mccity said:
That's definitely worth considering. But if you can look past Laporte arguably being too large for LB he's got better passing and crossing technique than Aké from what I've seen, and is better in progression.

I'll leave it there though as I don't want to get into a big long discussion and I never really intended to create a debate. Aké is definitely more mobile and it's clear that the club see him as a viable option there and not Laporte, so I'm satisfied.

And yes, looking like Gullit can only be a good thing. It worked for Zinchenko with De Bruyne!
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BTW, I wasn't suggesting he was better or preferable to Laporte at leftback. Just that he was no stranger to the position and was a true utility player. I think either would be great. I see botht as defensive LB to be fair. And expect the right back to be constantly joining the attack while the LB form a defensive 3. So either would work for me.
 
Dax777 said:
BTW, I wasn't suggesting he was better or preferable to Laporte at leftback. Just that he was no stranger to the position and was a true utility player. I think either would be great. I see botht as defensive LB to be fair. And expect the right back to be constantly joining the attack while the LB form a defensive 3. So either would work for me.
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't implying you were making the case for Aké over Laporte. I understood you were just trying to make the case for Aké, which was called for because my original post could easily have been inferred to mean I was knocking Aké (which I wasn't)

That's why I didn't want a debate.
:)
 
Pep Guardiola: "Yesterday, Aymeric [Laporte] had a first training session alone. So hopefully in one week, I don't know exactly but hopefully one week, ten days, he will be okay..." [via
@ManCity
 
Dax777 said:
Apologise. I was responding to a group of posts not just yours. Didn't mean to sound like I was talking to just you :)
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No worries Dax, I definitely reacted too harshly so my apologies as well. I do agree with the points you are making!
 
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