Coronavirus (2021) thread

[blueparrot]

It's only just long enough since the first wave for proper research on this.

That suggests you are 10x less likely to become infected if you've had it before, and that reinfection is much less likely to be serious.

Only two reinfection cases were found in the study; both were asymptomatic.

Covid-19: Antibodies protect against reinfection for at least six months, study finds

The presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies confers subsequent immunity in most people for at least six months, a study of healthcare workers in Oxford, UK, has found. Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine ,1 Sheila Lumley and members of the Oxford University Hospitals Staff Testing Group...

www.bmj.com

My daughter said 2 of her vaccinated colleagues that test weekly have tested positive with no symptoms. My thought was is it possible for the virus to be in the body and for that person to test positive before the vaccine, or any natural immunity from those that have already had covid, before the body ‘kills’ the virus?

 

[M18CTID]

Okay this may or may not slip, but think it probably won’t and wouldn’t be surprised if they get ahead. Either way sounds good news

Every adult will be offered a Covid-19 vaccine by the autumn, Health Secretary Matt Hancock says.

He adds that this will be "according to need", with the most vulnerable offered a vaccine first.

Over the last week, he says, the UK has vaccinated around two million people - more people than it did in the entirety of December.

The exact figures will be published tomorrow, he adds.

2 million in the last week? That’s a huge positive as I wasn’t expecting us to start hitting those figures for another couple of weeks at least

 

[worsleyweb]

2 million in the last week? That’s a huge positive as I wasn’t expecting us to start hitting those figures for another couple of weeks at least

we haven’t half a million in a week. Gone from 1.5 to 2

 

[robbieh]

It's only just long enough since the first wave for proper research on this.

That suggests you are 10x less likely to become infected if you've had it before, and that reinfection is much less likely to be serious.

Only two reinfection cases were found in the study; both were asymptomatic.

Covid-19: Antibodies protect against reinfection for at least six months, study finds

The presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies confers subsequent immunity in most people for at least six months, a study of healthcare workers in Oxford, UK, has found. Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine ,1 Sheila Lumley and members of the Oxford University Hospitals Staff Testing Group...

www.bmj.com

That 10x bit I like. Of the 2 people I mentioned, both were mid 30s, spent a few days in bed but in December 1 was asymptomatic and the other very mild symptoms.
I was more concerned really with reinfected people being able to pass on the virus to the previously uninfected.
But as you say the numbers of such folk should be very low.
Thanks for posting.

 

[blueparrot]

2 million in the last week? That’s a huge positive as I wasn’t expecting us to start hitting those figures for another couple of weeks at least

Yes as worsley says the BBC I quoted, put it badly, he meant we got up to 2 million total last week. Which makes more sense. Think we will hit 2 mill / week the week after next would be my hope.

 

[JamesMCFC]

Has the government come out and said what the criteria is for lifting the restrictions?

Like, do so many have to be vaccinated or do only so many infections per day?

 

[Mike Cledford]

They are all tested before and after the game so it’s absolutely fine.

do you honestly think players should be kept 2 metres apart in a dressing room after all testing negative ?!

So if you go out with your family and came across a West Ham player who had tested negative the day before would you be happy with your family to hug their hero and have a selfie all huddled together?

 

[M18CTID]

we haven’t half a million in a week. Gone from 1.5 to 2

Ok, got it now. Next week will be the big ramp up then as already stated on here. At least the daily vaccination figures will be something to look forward to because the daily updates on numbers of infections and deaths certainly aren’t.

 

[robbieh]

While the UK government have in my opinion been one of the worst in dealing with the pandemic, they certainly have shone in terms of the vaccination phase.
Just bumped into a couple of Brits here in Spain, both nearing 90 and pretty frail.

Both have cousins in the UK who have received 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. They on the other hand have had no notification from the Spanish health service.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Can anyone tell me if you receive some sort of certification once you have had the 2nd vaccination ? Thought you will need it for future travel abroad

The daughter works in a private care home and had her second jab on Friday, all she's shown me is the little appointment card that has her 2 appointments on it?

 

[twosips]

Has the government come out and said what the criteria is for lifting the restrictions?

Like, do so many have to be vaccinated or do only so many infections per day?

I'm going to guess it'll be based on public opinion tbh mate. That and the stats. Unless we're seeing a dramatic reduction in cases or deaths, then expect things to carry on for a while.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Cumulative UK vaccinations can be seen here:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare#card-people_who_have_received_vaccinations

Per 3 Jan it were 1.3m, per 10 Jan 2m (not yet in the grahic)
and I understand from now on 200k per day is the plan?

 

[drthingy]

Yes I’d slate the current governments handling of everything bar the purchasing of the vaccines they have succeeded compared to our European cousins (im pro EU)

Spectator discusses it here

Bad shot

It was about as grovelling as a letter can get. In June, the health ministers of Germany, France, Italy and the Netherlands were forced by their respective chancellors and prime ministers to write to the President of the European Commission

app.spectator.co.uk

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Ok, got it now. Next week will be the big ramp up then as already stated on here. At least the daily vaccination figures will be something to look forward to because the daily updates on numbers of infections and deaths certainly aren’t.

He did mention that they're hitting 200,000 per day. With a third of over 80s done to date.
Forty people getting theirs at my wifes place tomorrow. Those are big numbers when you about that taking place across the nation.

 

[worsleyweb]

Yes I’d slate the current governments handling of everything bar the purchasing of the vaccines they have succeeded compared to our European cousins (im pro EU)

Spectator discusses it here

Bad shot

It was about as grovelling as a letter can get. In June, the health ministers of Germany, France, Italy and the Netherlands were forced by their respective chancellors and prime ministers to write to the President of the European Commission

app.spectator.co.uk

what about the furlough scheme?

 

[sky tot]

The daughter works in a private care home and had her second jab on Friday, all she's shown me is the little appointment card that has her 2 appointments on it?

I suppose it will all documented on a government database. Which can be used to create a passport card if needed

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I suppose it will all documented on a government database. Which can be used to create a passport card if needed

I'd doubt that very much. It'll be medical records for sure but the former would require consent and legislation.

 

[Mike Cledford]

A Derby County side decimated by COVID19 positive tests is knocked out of the FA Cup by a Chorley side who celebrate in a way which suggests they too will be decimated by COVID19 positive tests in the not too near future but hey ho the vaccine is on its way...........let’s hope I’m wrong.......

Whilst Rooney and his first teamers live to fight another day with praise for doing the right thing and no criticism for fielding a weak team and Chorley have their big day. Win/win for some but let's hope the Chorley players don't take the virus into their wider community or that the Derby kids don't kop it.

 

[drthingy]

what about the furlough scheme?

True- certainly amazing compared to the states. Still missed certain groups though but not bad. Would UBI have been better? I’m not an economist or a business owner so I don’t know.

 

[Mike Cledford]

The players have had tests and isolated up to 10 days ahead of the game, do some research.

plus they’re playing footie for 90mins and getting changed in the changing room, so I’m sure this celebration for the biggest win in the clubs history isn’t going to make any difference whatsoever

Top doctors and scientists are less certain of the efficacy of research and theirs is the best available and not something like the research you quote that you've read in the Sun.