Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ctwrd said:
Its not.

the only greater measures they could do is to literally say that it is banned for businesses to operate. Ie. Not work from home unless absolutely necessary but if you can’t work from home you’re not allowed.

That’s the only way that you can see less “people traffic”.

the result would be thousands of businesses fold. The knock on effect would see far greater deaths long term so yes the lives of those many more are worth more collectively than the lesser number of additional people that could be save today.

there is a reason why lockdown isn’t extended in this way (it is accepted by the decision makers that this would swing the balance too far).

so perhaps you believe they who have made the decision disgusting not me
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Your comment on lives not being worth it was disgusting
 
ctwrd said:
Interesting that this is seen as wrong (I pass no opinion on it) yet when I highlighted the double standards of TV production I was told there was no issue.

I cited the example of Ant and Dec who despite being from two separate households of two or more have been allowed to form a permanent (not temporary despite some people’s protestations) “cohort”.

another example is gogglebox on channel 4. These people film two days a week and then go back to their working lives and mix with their own households.
Again, different households of two or more have been sat next to each other (no distancing) and they can’t say they have isolated for two weeks like some productions.
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Most of them on gogglebox live together those who dont formed a bubble and as i keep telling you ant and dec formed a bubble after isolating like the celebs did and tested every couple of days , it is no different to other bubbles and people going to work, it is not difficult , they were socially distanced from the celebs and crew at all times
 
Hancock did not say we had done 2 million in the past week. But two million as of now.

That means about 700, 000 in the past 7 days as last Sunday it was 1, 296, 432.

This is double the previous week when 333, 224 had the vaccine in 7 days - so good progress.

Especially as this coming week will be the first week of the full use of sites like the Etihad.

Hancock also said that every adult in the UK will have been offered the jab by the autumn.

They are not at present considering jabs for children.
 
shemnel said:
annoying anecdote time;

a friend of mine with 2 toddlers was forced to sell his house and move in the autumn (reasons not important) and his purchase fell through in early december. Anyway, they stayed with the in-laws for a month but have just been given a holiday house to stay in while they sort themselves out. Within the first day of moving in, they had been reported to the police 3 times. The police came twice and were perfectly happy with the completely reasonable situation.

This is a curtain twitching snitch state UK i dont like to see.
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Look on the bright side. They appear to moved to an area where there is an effective neighbourhood watch where people look out for each other, and the police seem to have a rapid response in comparison to other places. ;-)
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Turn away people with no masks and who don’t sanitise their hands from supermarkets. No mask, no entry; won’t sanitise your hands at the door, see ya! If you can’t wear a mask for medical reasons you cannot go in and must only get your food delivered to home.

Turned away from the supermarket if you’re not on your own and the person with you isn’t a carer or a parent with their kid(s). Groups of teenagers should be told to fuck right off, as should couples who seem to think the supermarket is a nice place to go for a stroll together while it’s lockdown.

Fines should be handed out to parents of teenagers who are congregating outdoors or in supermarkets (teenagers in supermarkets seems to be a bit of a ‘thing’ now, hanging around the car park for hours or even going inside in groups).

Close non-essential shops. I mean, they’re supposed to be closed anyway but Costa and Starbucks seem to be given a special status of essential businesses during this lockdown, what the fuck’s that about? Queues out the door when I’ve walked past after work this week. How is coffee from massive chains essential when local small business coffee shops are closed?

No meeting anyone from another household for exercise outdoors. Even go as far as a period of 10-14 days where nobody is allowed to leave home to exercise. Too many people are coming into close contact with other people. Similar to isolating, it’ll help bring numbers down somewhat.

Parents who can’t be arsed with their kids at home while they’re working from home should be told to fuck off by schools when they’re trying to dump their kids on the school pretending they’re a key worker.

January Vocational exams should have been cancelled outright from Monday. I’ve had kids in exam rooms this week during a new faster spreading strain of a pandemic when we’re supposed to be in lockdown (although we have now given them an option not to attend if they can’t or don’t want).

Bosses should be letting employees work from home if they can, not making them come into work and see if they can get away with it.

Cancel all intercontinental sports. No internationals, no Champions League. People shouldn’t be crossing borders at the moment. And none of this fucking travelling to Dubai like our women’s team have.
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Spot on.
Those who really can't wear masks are all wearing visors.
 
kaz7 said:
Most of them on gogglebox live together those who dont formed a bubble and as i keep telling you ant and dec formed a bubble after isolating like the celebs did and tested every couple of days , it is no different to other bubbles and people going to work, it is not difficult , they were socially distanced from the celebs and crew at all times
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As I keep telling you you are wrong. I have given you the evidence and you keep ignoring it.
Those in gogglebox aren’t bubbling.

re disgusting. It’s disgusting that some people would rather see greater long term deaths versus less short term deaths
 
Stoned Rose said:
1. Instruct the public to stay at home.

2. Allow millions of them to go to these sites to "see if I've got it".

3. At those sites those who do have it are "taking it to" those sites which allows it to spread at those sites.

4. Those without it who go to those sites are now in a location where the virus is definitely present, hence potentially exposing themselves to it.

Having seen it in action, its utter idiocy mate.
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All queuing up close, in twos and threes and about two feet from those in front and behind, they shuffle up close again when there's some movement.
I am not looking forward to my jab. A couple of years ago they had a drop in for ordinary flu jabs it was chaos because people were all having a chat, likely to be worse because they have not seen each other so all semblance of a queue disappeared.
 
ctwrd said:
I see plenty of people who look like that could have a qualifying exemption who are wearing masks. It tends to be those younger ones < 50 who play on their condition and don’t wear one.

I think the suggestion that if you qualify and don’t want to wear a mask you can be offered some assistance to get a slot to collect your shopping from the outdoor car park/delivery is a good one.

those that wear visors instead.
Waste of time. All their germs are still being spread just slightly downwards.
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Its not a total waste of time. At least they're doing something to show they care.
 
robbieh said:
The problem is that I know 2 people who tested positive in March and again in December. Apparently Ferrán Torres too.
Which suggests Immunity is transient.
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blueparrot said:
My daughter said 2 of her vaccinated colleagues that test weekly have tested positive with no symptoms. My thought was is it possible for the virus to be in the body and for that person to test positive before the vaccine, or any natural immunity from those that have already had covid, before the body ‘kills’ the virus?
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I’d guess some of this is down to test accuracy.
 
Mike Cledford said:
All queuing up close, in twos and threes and about two feet from those in front and behind, they shuffle up close again when there's some movement.
I am not looking forward to my jab. A couple of years ago they had a drop in for ordinary flu jabs it was chaos because people were all having a chat, likely to be worse because they have not seen each other so all semblance of a queue disappeared.
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It’ll probably depend where you have it. I had mine in a big sports hall and it was really well organised I didn’t come within 2 metres of anyone until I got the little prick !
 
give it to gordon said:
I saw Marhez do that in the tunnel and thought 'what the f**k some little minion will need to disinfect that astroturf. All joking aside about it being old trafford. Marhez should have been pulled up over it perhaps even fined. As should all players.
When you see players just gobbing everywhere, there is no way all the gob can be cleaned up.
I thought gobbing was meant to be banned during the pandemic.
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I don't know whether it is going to be called sexist but l get extra revolted when you see the women football do it and clear their nose with the 'Salford Hankie".
I honestly don't think I ever gobbed on a pitch or when undertaking serious physical exercise although l did feel like hooping at the end,)
 
give it to gordon said:
Perhaps I am just getting to old and bitter, but I feel sorry for people that have to clean up behind thoughtless people.
When I have to do litter picking I hate it I have never drop litter in my life.
I need to retire;)
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You can take the man out of Manchester but you can't take the Manchester out of the man Gordon.
 
ctwrd said:
As I keep telling you you are wrong. I have given you the evidence and you keep ignoring it.
Those in gogglebox aren’t bubbling.

re disgusting. It’s disgusting that some people would rather see greater long term deaths versus less short term deaths
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You know nothing and you are not listening , you are going on ignore
 
shemnel said:
annoying anecdote time;

a friend of mine with 2 toddlers was forced to sell his house and move in the autumn (reasons not important) and his purchase fell through in early december. Anyway, they stayed with the in-laws for a month but have just been given a holiday house to stay in while they sort themselves out. Within the first day of moving in, they had been reported to the police 3 times. The police came twice and were perfectly happy with the completely reasonable situation.

This is a curtain twitching snitch state UK i dont like to see.
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He should have gone door to door to explain the circumstances...
 
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