Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Hutchymcfc said:
Maybe shop on days starting with last name maybe? Have police driving about

it’s driving me mad seeing these supposed vulnerable group out and about , then the healthy age group been totally restricted

im ok to goto work but can’t goto the gym
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So you don't want the older people out and about so you kids can hang out on the street corners? Get to fuck.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Her policies seem to have resulted in a dramatically different second wave in Scotland.

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It isn't exactly certain that this is a result to restricting businesses who are already implementing social distancing policies. Also can't compare given the spread of a specific strand in London.
 
Think it's understandable that old people should not be asked to go for vaccines in the middle of the night, but once those tiers have been cleared, then the next group (and I would advocate all teachers at this point) should be done through the night. That would get them all done and back to work quickly and set the rate and expectations for the rest of society. Of course, it is entirely dependent on having sufficient doses.
 
Blue Maverick said:
A friend of the family's mother this weekend was dying in hospital, she was only allowed two people in to see her, so her daughters had been going, the word came through she was going to die within the next few hours, so her son went to the hospital to say his goodbyes. The guy on the door would not let him in saying the rules are the rules unfortunately, two people only. The lad explained all he wanted to do was say goodbye, the lad on the door ushered him in for 5 mins, which he didnt have to do. Its so sad that many have not had this opportunity to do this, fair play to the lad on the door showing some humanity.
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Its so sad, to have a love 1 go into hospital then to be told 2 days later hes died

We never got an opertunity just the phone call saying my dad had passed

Then you wait & 2 days later to be told what happens next you havnt got a clue untill the registra contacts you then the bereavement nurse

58 years marriage & not allowed to say i love you taken away from my mum
If anyone on here doesn't believe it can happen to you or a love 1 think again
My mum has now tested possitive so here we go again

Please listen & do as your told, if you have young ones then make sure they behave & stay in do not think they won't pass it on to any of you or a love ones

Imagine telling your sons or daughters there mum has died without any reason but catching covid

Both my parents never left the house
 
come-on-barney said:
Wales now targeting March 20th for all over 50’s to have had the vaccination, and everyone else who is at risk. If that comes off that is pretty good going.
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It is good going, but it does puzzles me.
That suggests that Wales (in this example) are being given all doses they need, and their supply has been carved off the UK total rather than work band by band down to band 9.
Postcode lottery gets bandied around a lot, but how is it different?
 
domalino said:
The limiting factor is doses and vaccinators, surely?

You can't do it 24/7 unless you have the staff and the supplies.
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You'd have thought so, but can only really use their own wording against them there. They heavily imply its possible.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
It is good going, but it does puzzles me.
That suggests that Wales (in this example) are being given all doses they need, and their supply has been carved off the UK total rather than work band by band down to band 9.
Postcode lottery gets bandied around a lot, but how is it different?
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We're Welsh, we're special
 
twosips said:
This is interesting. Given this admission, and that many no doubt will now disagree, I think we could see a change of tact on this.

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Accepting that to be true, I suppose the first question is "why is there no clamour?"

I suspect that very few people think that they can just roll up at their leisure, and are waiting to be given direction to do so, even if they knew where to go.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
If I was offered one, I'd happily go at 3am.
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as would I.

i think the debate around 24hr vaccinations is very interesting, few thoughts;

- given vaccines were nigh on inevitable, could GP practices have spent 6 months calling patients to ascertain willingness/ability to travel between the hours of 7pm and 7am, should it come to that? or were staff simply too busy?

- do the NHS have the staff to do this? given the massive sick rates? would it just smear the current vaccine capacity pointlessly around the clock?

- no shows will be higher at night than in the day - is this an effective/efficient use of very limited staff time?

- is supply able to keep up with 24hr provision?

- do you accept that those who can attend at weird hours are likely to be those who are further down the priority list? is that just a societal price to pay? what if supply dries up for a month and 2 million folks who could go at unsociable hours got theirs while millions of oldies or clinically vulnerable who couldn't or were advised against going at midnight have to wait and risk infection?

- how do you deal with the inevitable accident/crash of a tired patient or the over tired nurse who bungles the jab? i'd doubt this would happen in any significant way outside of a few incidents but the very fact you might be able to point to the time of night presents a real indemnity headache for the NHS (sadly)

- how can you justify wasted shots if there are 1000s willing to take them up at odd hours?

i really think this 24hr thing is very nuanced and i think a main sticking point is how do you deal with the inevitable - the mistake or accident and how that is tied, rightly or wrongly, to time of night.
 
twosips said:
You'd have thought so, but can only really use their own wording against them there. They heavily imply its possible.
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Do you have the whole statement rather than a random short snippet?

It reads as though they're stating the obvious based on a current situation. Following on from @domalino, if they have no doses and no vaccinators, it's a certainty that there is no clamour.
 
I had a Teams call with one of my colleagues in Switzerland this morning and we spoke about the Covid situation. I said that our mass vaccination programme was underway and asked how it was going there. He said there is no mention of it either from the government or in the media and he thinks hardly anyone has received it.
 
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