Coronavirus (2021) thread

[trumpton]

Has anyone else had a letter from the imperial college London about anti body testing? Basically asking to register and get a free anti body test delivered ?

Yes, about three months ago. The test as mentioned is a bit like a pregnancy test. Here's mine.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Scotland data

78 deaths (was 93 last Saturday)

1753 cases (was 1865 last Saturday)

At 8,4% positive

1863 in hospital (up 3)

145 on ventilator icu (up 4)

180 care homes have an outbreak (17%)

Down a bit, so not completely bad, but far too slow of a decline for much optimism sadly. Last few days seem to have plateued a bit, at far too high a level.

 

[Healdplace]

Looks like vaccinations will be Mon - Fri data only as neither Wales or Scotland have updated them from yesterday today.

 

[Healdplace]

Down a bit, so not completely bad, but far too slow of a decline for much optimism sadly. Last few days seem to have plateued a bit, at far too high a level.

Yes, not falling as fast as Wales. But it is trending down so in the circumstances we are in - the thick of this wave with every day building up immunity via the vaccines - it's better than trending up.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

£25 billion well spent.

Nobody uses it talks about the Track and Trace app which was deemed so important to infection control when it was being developed. Has it been totally abandoned or discredited?

The UK does not have a monopoly on T&T systems collapsing, 1.8 million people in Portugal have uninstalled our equivalent since September and my wife who is Swiss has reported the same from her family back home.

We have to accept that some of the logistics we are trying to implement are a challenge to all nations around the world as we roll out systems at record speed without being able to fully factor and analyse the variable scenarios that would impact end users’ decision to actually use the application. It was a throw of the dice..

https://www.portugalresident.com/st...ed-by-1-8-million-portuguese-since-september/

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths:

771 with 78 from the North West. Could have been worse. But is up a bit on last week.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths 3 wks v 2wks v last wk v Today:- England Total/ NW Total / NW %

161 / 4 NW / 3% - This was Boxing Day recall so very low reporting

383 / 16 NW / 4% - 2 Jan so long weekend no registrations on previous day.

625 / 62 NW / 10% - first real comparison week with no special factors

771 . 78 NW / 10% - as you see a rise but not as big as some last week and NW holding steady still.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Are you suggesting we shouldn't test people, or trace their contacts? We know lots of people with Covid have no symptoms and yet the elderly can experience serious infections. That means its more important to test for it although it might be awkward.

Well with the situation we’re in, I’m more suggesting the opposite, where we actually need to be testing every single person in the country at least once a week. Like the Premier League us. Otherwise T&T will never keep up with the spread and all that money is wasted.

What should happen/should have happened, is an eye-wateringly strict lockdown as early as possible. Borders closed, stay at home (which really means stay at home), workplaces apart from essential produce shops all shut (no exceptions), no international sports or things like the CL, nobody moving around the world or even the country, and a T&T system then brought in to get a grip of who’s got the virus.

Then slowly open things up, after it appears the R is at ‘0’. But borders should still remain closed (like in Aus and NZ) for a long time after while the virus is still around the world.

The T&T system would then work.

It might be hindsight to say we should have done that from March last year, but we saw what happened in March and should have done it ahead of the Autumn rise and again before this Winter rise. We had a chance to learn from March and didn’t learn and didn’t do it either time we needed to subsequently from March.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths past few days week to week comparison:

Sun 386 up to 508

Mon 376 up to 489

Tue 583 up to 747

Wed 674 up to 1012 - This is always a week end lag catch up day

Thu 661 up to 884

Fri 717 up to 807

Now 625 up to 771


Maybe hints of a slowdown but early to tell and next two days will be weekend data so not that helpful really as catch up from those days will follow Tuesday and Wednesday as every week.

 

[Healdplace]

More on 771 England hospital deaths:

By region:-

173 London. 161 Midlands, 130 South East, 115 East. 78 North West, 68 NE & Yorkshire, 46 South West

Age ranges:-

20 - 39 (2) 0.3%

40 - 59 (50) 6.5%

60 - 79 (280) 36.3%

80 + (439) 56.9%

 

[artfuldodger]

My 82 year old mum, registered blind, has received texts to her old crappy Nokia phone yesterday and today with a link to book her vaccine jab. Fortunately I visited her today with my 20 year old son, who checked her texts for her and managed to book her a slot via his phone. She didn’t even know she had any texts. I thought the oldies were getting letters?

 

[Blue Maverick]

Woke up this morning and felt bloody awful, when I lift my head off the pillow it felt like the room was spinning, I had two beers last night but thought that can’t be it. Walked to the toilet for a piss thought i was going to fall over, so back to bed. Anyway my missus was talking to the next door neighbour who had it over Xmas, he said he had exactly the same thing, didn’t have any symptoms but that went for a test and he was positive. Just booked and had my test within 30 mins, can’t go into work now on nights but could this be new symptom? I remember when people were claiming about loss of taste and smell when it wasn’t widely acknowledge.

 

[Healdplace]

Looking at the England hospital only deaths here are the numbers since 1 Jan:

Date // Day 1 // Day 2 // Day 3// Day 4 // Day 5 // Total now


1 Jan // 32 - 196 - 262 - 338 - 394 // 477

2 Jan // 47 - 239 - 333 - 376 - 408 // 476

3 Jan // 33 - 244 - 352 - 391 - 418 // 457

4 Jan // 67 - 317 - 426 - 489 - 504 // 579

5 Jan // 71 - 347 - 493 - 536 - 547 // 583

6 Jan // 88 - 392 - 497 - 537 - 555 // 599

7 Jan // 90 - 381 - 498 - 522 - 557 // 621

8 Jan // 89 - 297 - 410 - 497 - 567 // 623

9 Jan // 39 - 294 - 450 - 544 - 601 // 627

10 Jan // 54 - 373 - 544 - 612 - 635 // 655

11 Jan // 103 - 463 - 625 - 672 - 694 // This is where it is now after 5 days.

12 Jan // 126 - 494 - 632 - 682 ......// This is where it is now after 4 days.

13 Jan // 98 - 459 - 628 ..............// This is where it is now after 3 days.

14 Jan // 108 - 460 ...................// This is where it is now after 2 days.

15 Jan // 102...........................// This is where it is now after just 1 day.


See if you can detect a hint of a slow towards plateau there as I do.

Though some 700 death days look certain from tomorrow for at least a few days.

The rapid acceleration has stopped though it seems,

 

[Rammy Blue]

Well with the situation we’re in, I’m more suggesting the opposite, where we actually need to be testing every single person in the country at least once a week. Like the Premier League us. Otherwise T&T will never keep up with the spread and all that money is wasted.

What should happen/should have happened, is an eye-wateringly strict lockdown as early as possible. Borders closed, stay at home (which really means stay at home), workplaces apart from essential produce shops all shut (no exceptions), no international sports or things like the CL, nobody moving around the world or even the country, and a T&T system then brought in to get a grip of who’s got the virus.

Then slowly open things up, after it appears the R is at ‘0’. But borders should still remain closed (like in Aus and NZ) for a long time after while the virus is still around the world.

The T&T system would then work.

It might be hindsight to say we should have done that from March last year, but we saw what happened in March and should have done it ahead of the Autumn rise and again before this Winter rise. We had a chance to learn from March and didn’t learn and didn’t do it either time we needed to subsequently from March.

We placed too much emphasis on trying to keep the elements of the economy linked to overseas going, whereas in reality if we’d done as you said above we’d have been able to open up our internal economy much quicker which would have had far less an impact. Hindsight.

 

[shemnel]

My 82 year old mum, registered blind, has received texts to her old crappy Nokia phone yesterday and today with a link to book her vaccine jab. Fortunately I visited her today with my 20 year old son, who checked her texts for her and managed to book her a slot via his phone. She didn’t even know she had any texts. I thought the oldies were getting letters?

Woah hold up champ, a text? I'm not 100% on how this is being rolled out but text sets off my Spidey senses

Edit: check ofcom and covid scams and texts, they have some images of scams

 

[Del_Bosque]

In England, so presumably the rest of the UK is roughly in line, daily rate is now exceeding the rate we need to go at for the Feb target.

will fluctuate but surely good news

 

[Blue and still suffering]

Looking at the England hospital only deaths here are the numbers since 1 Jan:

Date // Day 1 // Day 2 // Day 3// Day 4 // Day 5 // Total now


1 Jan // 32 - 196 - 262 - 338 - 394 // 477

2 Jan // 47 - 239 - 333 - 376 - 408 // 476

3 Jan // 33 - 244 - 352 - 391 - 418 // 457

4 Jan // 67 - 317 - 426 - 489 - 504 // 579

5 Jan // 71 - 347 - 493 - 536 - 547 // 583

6 Jan // 88 - 392 - 497 - 537 - 555 // 599

7 Jan // 90 - 381 - 498 - 522 - 557 // 621

8 Jan // 89 - 297 - 410 - 497 - 567 // 623

9 Jan // 39 - 294 - 450 - 544 - 601 // 627

10 Jan // 54 - 373 - 544 - 612 - 635 // 655

11 Jan // 103 - 463 - 625 - 672 - 694 // This is where it is now after 5 days.

12 Jan // 126 - 494 - 632 - 682 ......// This is where it is now after 4 days.

13 Jan // 98 - 459 - 628 ..............// This is where it is now after 3 days.

14 Jan // 108 - 460 ...................// This is where it is now after 2 days.

15 Jan // 102...........................// This is where it is now after just 1 day.


See if you can detect a hint of a slow towards plateau there as I do.

Though some 700 death days look certain from tomorrow for at least a few days.

The rapid acceleration has stopped though it seems,

I'm sure that in the briefing last night that Prof Whitty said that hospitalisations would probably peak next week with deaths 7 to 10 days after that.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

My 82 year old mum, registered blind, has received texts to her old crappy Nokia phone yesterday and today with a link to book her vaccine jab. Fortunately I visited her today with my 20 year old son, who checked her texts for her and managed to book her a slot via his phone. She didn’t even know she had any texts. I thought the oldies were getting letters?

Exactly the same happened to my old next door neighbour.
She went off the GP practice to find out how to do it and was sent off with a flea in her ear and a terse “you’ll get a letter”.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Woah hold up champ, a text? I'm not 100% on how this is being rolled out but text sets off my Spidey senses

Edit: check ofcom and covid scams and texts, they have some images of scams

GPS are texting patients.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

In England, so presumably the rest of the UK is roughly in line, daily rate is now exceeding the rate we need to go at for the Feb target.

will fluctuate but surely good news

I think it would take an extra few days if we were vaccinating 325k per day going forward. Thst shouldn’t be an issue since the aim is to ramp up to 400k and then 500k.