I guess even if you were isolated in a hotel room then your own mortgage/rent/utility bills would still need to be paid, never mind supporting your partner, kids etc?
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PannickAtTheDisco
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Think they’re worried about people with symptoms keeping quiet and still going into work as they can’t afford not to.
that just promotes going out and getting infected...
cleavers
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Yes, I'm not against the payment, I was just thinking about making sure they actually isolated, as currently that is more important for the country than just giving someone £500, who might take the money and then still not isolate.I guess even if you were isolated in a hotel room then your own mortgage/rent/utility bills would still need to be paid, never mind supporting your partner, kids etc?
I'd only give them the money if they agreed to be checked on, ie in a hotel that they can be checked on.
Cheers. Just bought a similar one off Amazon, here tomorrow.
Probably peaked a day or two ago in severity so I’m reality hoping it’s the road to recovery now.
Still very weak and isleep calls I answer without as much as an arm wrestle.
Heart races if I’m walking about too much or trying any form of exertion.
Struggling to inhale deeply but force myself (holding breath for breathing exercises) after which I explode in a coughing fit. These are less dry coughs though so that’s something.
Found solace in a hot water bottle of all things.
Speaking with an old friend/client (she was a microbiologist) and she agrees with my assertion that me being physically rundown (Haverhill slept too well recently) & then sat in a cold flat all the time probably compromised my immune system (which is normally rock solid).
Gave it a foothold at least.
Thanks for asking - hope you’re well mate.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not wholeheartedly advocating these payments. There are clear flaws with the idea, as well as some merits.that just promotes going out and getting infected...
PannickAtTheDisco
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how about £500 for sitting at home and behaving?Don’t get me wrong, I’m not wholeheartedly advocating these payments. There are clear flaws with the idea, as well as some merits.
If you’re offering it, I’ll take it.how about £500 for sitting at home and behaving?
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Summerbuzz
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Good to here, coincidence that you and another couple of lads in here who i identify with prolly due to age got it at the same time - interested to see how everyones recovery compares with mine.Probably peaked a day or two ago in severity so I’m reality hoping it’s the road to recovery now.
Parents have been bribing children to sit still and be quiet for thousands of years.. but teachers can do it with a word or gesture every time... hmmmm. Whats that about then? and why do i relate it to our softie PM who wants to be the nice guy all the time?If you’re offering it, I’ll take it.
cleavers
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I'd offer it to some to sit in a hotel room where they will be checked, they can pay for their food at a reasonable rate.how about £500 for sitting at home and behaving?
The majority of us don't need to be incentivised though, we'd just act responsibly.
Only those of us who’d get sick pay though. There are many who would need financial support in order to isolate.The majority of us don't need to be incentivised though, we'd just act responsibly.
cleavers
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Yes I understand that, I still don't think we should give money without some sort of guarantee though, I'm not against it, I've said that, but it needs to be the same on both sides of the equation.Only those of us who’d get sick pay though. There are many who would need financial support in order to isolate.
PannickAtTheDisco
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you'd just spend it on rainbow pies.If you’re offering it, I’ll take it.
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Probably peaked a day or two ago in severity so I’m reality hoping it’s the road to recovery now.
Still very weak and isleep calls I answer without as much as an arm wrestle.
Heart races if I’m walking about too much or trying any form of exertion.
Struggling to inhale deeply but force myself (holding breath for breathing exercises) after which I explode in a coughing fit. These are less dry coughs though so that’s something.
Found solace in a hot water bottle of all things.
Speaking with an old friend/client (she was a microbiologist) and she agrees with my assertion that me being physically rundown (Haverhill slept too well recently) & then sat in a cold flat all the time probably compromised my immune system (which is normally rock solid).
Gave it a foothold at least.
Thanks for asking - hope you’re well mate.
Probably doesn't feel like it at all but it does sound that you're on the mend and hopefully this is your immune system telling this thing to go and take a flying fuck to itself. It's not a bad thing that you're sleeping when you can, it'll do the world of good even though it goes against everything you've probably taught yourself throughout life about sleeping at random times through the day!! Keep at it mate.
Do you get sick pay at work? People can’t afford to be offI'd offer it to some to sit in a hotel room where they will be checked, they can pay for their food at a reasonable rate.
The majority of us don't need to be incentivised though, we'd just act responsibly.
This wasn't cheap when the 'rough sleepers' were accommodated in spring, and you can't expect minimum wage non-clinical staff to work in a building full of COVID acting like a prison warden / nurse rolled into one.A very legitimate worry, but we've thousands of empty hotel rooms, why not make it clear that if they get tested positive they'll actually be looked after ?
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worsleyweb
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If only 17 percent with symptoms are getting tested then even more millions more have had it than official numbers. This 40,000 a day currently could be more like 200,000?
Makes death rate lower? And combined with vaccine number at say 300,000 then maybe half a million a day are achieving a degree of immunity?
Makes death rate lower? And combined with vaccine number at say 300,000 then maybe half a million a day are achieving a degree of immunity?
gazinho
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I struggle to believe this 17% is correct. If so there must be millions of people per day infected, recently weve been processing on average 600k tests a day say at least 75% of them are suffering symptoms then in reality there are 2.6 million people in the UK suffering symptoms every day, absolute bollocks
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if 83% arnt getting tested how the fuck would they know as its not been proven,are they guessing or is there ways of knowing.
MillionMilesAway
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I struggle to believe this 17% is correct. If so there must be millions of people per day infected, recently weve been processing on average 600k tests a day say at least 75% of them are suffering symptoms then in reality there are 2.6 million people in the UK suffering symptoms every day, absolute bollocks
I'm not sure why it matters much.
I agree that the 17% would suggest a very high rate, yet the numbers remain high - the two seem incompatible, as 250k/day would mean that reinvention must be happening.
Regardless, the number of cases is essentially a cipher to measure spread - as long as it's on a consistent basis, it's nothing more than a indicator.
The more important markers are the serious ones -- hospitalization and deaths.
I struggle to believe this 17% is correct. If so there must be millions of people per day infected, recently weve been processing on average 600k tests a day say at least 75% of them are suffering symptoms then in reality there are 2.6 million people in the UK suffering symptoms every day, absolute bollocks
17% with symptoms doesn't mean 17% of those who have it. Symptoms is mainly self-diagnosis and I know one person who has had 'symptoms' 5 times, 5 tests, 5 negatives, and surely a couple more to come.
Whole families are going for tests at once too, so I wouldn't expect 75% to be symptomatic, e.g. if a child of a key worker has a cold at school.
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