Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
Unfortunately a very bad England hospital death number today.

993 - way up on last weeks 807.

A big step back after yesterday's hopeful number

North West though only 94. Which is surprisingly low.

London with I think the highest yet from one region - 233
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It isn't good but as we know death numbers aren't going to drop until a good 7-10 days after hospital admission's start to fall.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I don't think this is correct.

Israeli reported efficacy is zero up to 12 days, 33% from 14-18 days, and no data beyond that.

But many caveats, and nothing to worry about IMO.

See here

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Coronavirus (2021) thread

Let me just find my tiny violin for any anti-vaxx or Covid denying shithouses refusing the vaccine. Fuck em. Quite happy to have pricks like that on the fringes of society, whilst everyone else can go back to doing what we love doing; City, pubs, travel, gigs.....bring it the fuck on. Agree...
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Big difference between a reduction in positivity and efficaciousnes. Time and how ill people get are not included in the so far available data either.
Anyway Valance said he would be reporting back on this when the data is clearer.
 
Healdplace said:
Unfortunately a very bad England hospital death number today.

993 - way up on last weeks 807.

A big step back after yesterday's hopeful number

North West though only 94. Which is surprisingly low.

London with I think the highest yet from one region - 233
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i do think were going to have a big drop soon, hopefull those numbers above can be cut by 50% this time next week, the xmas mixing deaths must now be over the peak and reducing,,fingers crossed
 
ayrshire_blue said:
I don't know what it is, but I kinda put it down to anxiety (never something I've had before), it's not painful or anything but certainly something I'm aware of every now and then. Hope it stops soon whatever it is. It's this sort of thing that makes it feel different to explain than a regular cold or flu. Went a 3 or 4 mile all round walk yesterday and thankfully felt good for it, building up slowly. Hopefully the smell thing goes away for you as quick as it came on.
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That sounds incredibly positive.
I’m someone who walks the dig for two hours most evenings (and runs if possible too).
As soon as I can I’ll be treading the tarmac again for some light dog walking.
Merely typing that is lifting me.
Great news mate.

@tolmie's hairdoo - how are things with you mate?
 
blue b4 the moon said:
It isn't good but as we know death numbers aren't going to drop until a good 7-10 days after hospital admission's start to fall.
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They fell week to week yesterday giving a bit of hope.

This is the biggest week to week rise in a while and some truly horrific daily numbers over the past few days that are records across the entire pandemic.

Highest 1 st day total - 134 died actually on 21 Jan - yesterday. Last Friday the day one number was 108. Week before 90. Week before 42. This is not a number stabilising.

On Day 2 - 20 Jan - a gigantic 410 was added to total 512 known deaths in just 48 hours. Going back 7 days on these the numbers added (and 2 day totals) are 410 (512)- 361 (459) - 304 (392) - 183 (237)

It is much the same for the other days. Nothing but going up and up.

Jan 19 (just 72 hours ago) is on 722 after just 3 days - week before it was 632 - week before 493 - week before 341

There really is no upside to this. Catastrophic numbers.
 
The only upside there really is comes from the NW which fell in total to just 9% of England despite there being 200 extra England deaths on yesterday. Only the South West had fewer today - a much smaller region than NW and running at a record high for them in fact.

NW given its densely populated areas and the highest total cases across the pandemic until very recently when London overtook it with such high numbers in past month is dramatically lower on the death levels than the other regions.

NW is approaching half a million cases in coming days (at 489, 280). London has rocketed past and overtook NW around Christmas and was at the NW current number early January and is now at 605, 139 cases.

No other region is anywhere near the case numbers the NW has now.

So the low deaths here are very welcome but very surprising.

Unless they are still to come as there are at 402 over 50 more on ventilators than there were during the peak of the first wave in the region in April.

I have been saying this for some weeks now though and as yet there is no clear indication that NW deaths are anything but surprisingly stable at a very welcome but puzzling level.

Perhaps the vaccine has some part in this? We have pro rata vaccinated more of the vulnerable than London in the past month iirc.
 
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Northern Ireland data:

12 deaths - last week was 26

9 in hospital and 3 in Care Homes.

865 cases - last week was 1052

At 20.1% positive - very low for here and was 25.4% last week

Rolling 7 day cases total down again to 5534. Was 7590 last week.

Care home outbreaks down 5 in day to 134. Was 142 last week

Patients up 22 to 828 . Was 840 last week.

Ventilated 52 - down 6. Was 47 last week
 
Marvin said:
Worth noting from that ONS data that the % people infected who are over 70 is really low so the vaccine is not going to have much effect yet on the rate of new infections. We can expect it to reduce transmission.

A second point which doesn't matter now but will matter in time:

When the over 80s and over 70s they go back home. What do you do when the over 50s get vaccinated? That wont be too far away. This group is going to want to get on with their life, and telling them no will be a lot harder than it is for over 80s
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Excellent point. My parents in mid-80s have now had both jabs but they're not going anywhere (all food delivered, church closed etc); all they want is to see children and grandchildren and they're not able to.

Mrs Unicorn and me in mid-50s just want to get back to pubs, gigs and City. Can't see any of those being available for a long while after our first jab.
 
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