Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Fergusons got to be booted off Nervtag surely

After the summer farce now he’s giving out information like thay before a Government briefing?
 
Tell people the new variant is more deadly, that might make more people stay at home, social distance and wear masks etc.
Am I being too cynical?
No.
That said the Government is right to use every weapon to get Covidiots to comply.
The reality is that Flu is more deadly in Winter so Covid probably is too.
 
No.
That said the Government is right to use every weapon to get Covidiots to comply.
The reality is that Flu is more deadly in Winter so Covid probably is too.
Completely agree. That's exactly what I would be saying. Hopefully it has the desired affect.
 
Ferguson also said this accoring to Peston -


"The big caveat is that we only know which strain people were infected for about 8% of deaths"

Which makes it almost worthless as a statistic.

Yet our glorious leaders have gone on national news and said this anyway. Fucking awfully irresponsible. Drives me mad as I think compliance is pretty decent at the moment and all this does is make people feel low, futile and scared. People near rock bottom either give up on themselves or give up the rules and see people. Ridiculous decision to talk about this yet based on such sketchy data.
 
Fergusons got to be booted off Nervtag surely

After the summer farce now he’s giving out information like thay before a Government briefing?

The government leaked it hours ago, why shouldn't Ferguson answer questions raised by the government leak?

I'd much rather he and NERVTAG keep putting as much information out there as possible in writing and interviews because the prospect of Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock briefings and leaks being our only sources of scientific information is fucking terrifying.
 
Yet our glorious leaders have gone on national news and said this anyway. Fucking awfully irresponsible. Drives me mad as I think compliance is pretty decent at the moment and all this does is make people feel low, futile and scared. People near rock bottom either give up on themselves or give up the rules and see people. Ridiculous decision to talk about this yet based on such sketchy data.
If they didnt we would say they are hiding it , it is not great but this is the science and we have to accept it
 
Off topic I know, but we've still got 2 different Geraniums (pink and red) flowering profusely on our balcony, and the first of our Ipheion (light blue star like flower), and a couple of new bright yellow Cape Daisy flowers out, so it already feels a bit more spring like, pity about the weather.

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The government leaked it hours ago, why shouldn't Ferguson answer questions raised by the government leak?

I'd much rather he and NERVTAG keep putting as much information out there as possible in writing and interviews because the prospect of Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock briefings and leaks being our only sources of scientific information is fucking terrifying.
Whitty and valence are doing most of these news conferences and are telling us everything , are you watching them ?
 
Whitty and valence are doing most of these news conferences and are telling us everything , are you watching them ?

Whitty and Valance are OK, I prefer hearing from the actual scientist who are doing the research directly, in writing, and not civil servants.

We already know from the leaked emails last year those two only say what the government lets them say.
 
Whitty and Valance are OK, I prefer hearing from the actual scientist who are doing the research directly, in writing, and not civil servants.
You get that in clinical trials and peer reviewed papers that are all out there , the CMO and public health bring everything together , it is silly to refer to them as just civil servants
 
Whitty and valence are doing most of these news conferences and are telling us everything , are you watching them ?
Do you rate them? If Whitty was my GP I'd probably dump him. Repeats the same reasoning and assumption several times, using slightly dafter and more childish language every time. I feel we never get to the hard facts of why he makes an assumption. No specificity. 'We think' is not terribly reassuring. They could be clearer, more transparent about it. He's quite patronising in fact. Old school GP stuff. Beige.
 
Ferguson also said this accoring to Peston -


"The big caveat is that we only know which strain people were infected for about 8% of deaths"

Which makes it almost worthless as a statistic.

Not really. 8% of a very large number could easily enough to be representative.
 
If they didnt we would say they are hiding it , it is not great but this is the science and we have to accept it

The science doesn't even say it. The science basically says its a small theory with 'considerable remaining uncertainty'. I don't think they should mention it until they know more. It's irresponsible.
 
Greater Manchester summary:

Up again both in cases and the % of the NW total - so GM looks like it is now slowly edging towards being the focus of the NW wave. Though happily not doing so very fast and we may control the numbers with a little more effort.

Up 217 cases on yesterday to 1554 - although that is 309 down on last Friday.

Pretty much everywhere up but not by large numbers. Even a couple of small falls. And two of the usual suspect best boroughs still made it sub 100. Just.

The % of the NW total rose to 31% - the highest since New Year.

That said as most cases are week to week down a lot of falls in weekly Pop Scores will continue today.

So on balance not a bad day.
 
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