Political relations between UK-EU

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Ancient Citizen said:
You're probably right, but as for avoiding making them look bad to the rest of the world, after this debacle that'll be a hard sell, and negotiation ain't exactly their strong point;)
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That's why I reckon she'll see out her full term. By the time they've all decided 4 years will have already passed.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Apparently, they've 'Looked into,' and 'Made enquiries' with this stampede.
Not moving either, just and branches and depots, which has always been the case with many large companies, that's even if it happens, which as yet, it hasn't.
So we're being presented with more might do's and could be's from the Nissan
experts, who recently received the dispiriting news that their CEO said the Brexit news was actually better than what they had.
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That is the problem when you always depend on worse case scenarios to try and support your doom mongering.

Reality has a nasty habit of biting - as Nissan demonstrated
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
There will obviously be movement both ways to suit businesses as they feel.

Nearly 1,500 firms from the EU itself (and more from elsewhere) have planned to set up offices in Britain in the last few years.

This will continue both ways for a few years yet.
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Yes, and neither is good news. Setting up offices is a cost, many firms will not bother, the fact some firms are setting up offices on either side means there is a trade barrier, trade barriers inhibit business, increase red tape and drive up costs.

We have a trade barrier between the UK and Europe where previously there was no barrier. There is a trade barrier between GB and NI where previously there was no barrier.

Either we are for trade barriers or we are not, so which is it? We seem to be celebrating the creation of them on one day and then celebrating the reduction of them the next.
 
mcfc1632 said:
That is the problem when you always depend on worse case scenarios to try and support your doom mongering.

Reality has a nasty habit of biting - as Nissan demonstrated
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"Nissan's going to shut down production!"

Nissan - Brexit is actually much better than we had hoped, possibly better than what we had before!

"1,000 British businesses leaving the UK to set up in Europe!"

Over 1,000 EU businesses coming the other way to set up in the UK.

When you actively only want to find bad news, unsurprisingly that is exactly all you will find.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Wouldn't it be good if there was such a trading bloc - you know a genuine trading bloc and just a trading bloc available in Europe?

There used to be - sad really
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It'd get my vote.

Seriously, EU goes back to EEC terms indefinitely you can bet i'd be championing the UK to rejoin.
No EU budget, no Parliament, no Customs Union.
 
bluethrunthru said:
well fancy that

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Firms 'stampede' to set up in the EU following Brexit - report

The London Economic - The Netherlands British Chamber of Commerce said they have been working “night and day” on inquiries- News
www.thelondoneconomic.com www.thelondoneconomic.com
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As a counterbalance to that, one of my biggest customers based in North Wales announced last week that they will move to a site over three times as big as the current one in order to expand production (packaging, mainly for food) as a lot of work that is being done in sites in continental Europe currently will be produced here.

Another large independent packaging customer of mine was bought last week by a huge European group and the intention is to ramp up production. All my packaging customers are running at maximum capacity and many are investing in new kit in order to meet demand.

Different sectors will do different things.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Lol.
What's even more amusing though, is that Napoleon over in La Belle France
declared on Friday that the Astra vaccine is 'Quasi ineffective.' Germany
said similar. So we get the two biggest members of their club rubbishing
it, yet the club screams about how unjust it is them not receiving it.
Pantomimes like this are a feature of bloated bureaucracy,
I don't think Euroscepticism over there will diminish somehow.
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Two things wrong with AstraZeneca vaccine - it is useless and they can't get enough of it. Lol
 
mcfc1632 said:
"Britain will apply to join a massive 11-nation free-trade bloc of Asia-Pacific countries, it announced Saturday, weeks after leaving the European single market with its departure from the EU."

Britain will apply to join Asia-Pacific free-trade bloc in the wake of Brexit (france24.com)

This is an interesting - if fully expected - development

Would be nice to be in a Trading Bloc
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Great news. Rumour has it Biden will take the US into TPP also, so looks like a free trade deal with the US is incoming.
 
BobKowalski said:
Good of Liz Truss to finally come clean as she accepts Brexit has imposed trade barriers on British companies, says they were always clear it would. That last bit must have been on the inside of the bus :)
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Yeah - if only the EU ideologists could have been content to be the biggest trading bloc on the planet

We all have good reason to be fucked off with the self-serving idiots

Really quite sad what they have done
 
BlueAnorak said:
Setting up distribution depots to deal with returns isn't really leaving though is it?
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It’s additional costs to circumvent a trade barrier, like Amazon having to set up an all Ireland hub because of the trade barrier between GB and NI which means they can no longer service NI from GB adequately. Bear in mind that GB/NI is still in a grace period with more barriers to be implemented over the next six months.

On a wider note, the UK was a major transit and distribution hub, it no longer will be because of the trade barriers the Brexit deal puts in place.
 
hgblue said:
Great news. Rumour has it Biden will take the US into TPP also, so looks like a free trade deal with the US is incoming.
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FBPE types upon hearing the news;

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mcfc1632 said:
Yeah - if only the EU ideologists could have been content to be the biggest trading bloc on the planet

We all have good reason to be fucked off with the self-serving idiots

Really quite sad what they have done
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Yes, Brexit has been a huge blow to UK businesses and a crippling blow to some sectors. Pleased you are finally seeing reality.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
to be honest, her handling of this has been a disaster. Knee jerk does not begin to describe it. An indication of how much pressure she is under to deliver. There can be no excuse for her threatening to trigger A 16 though.
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No threat. She did. Only later rescinding it after Ireland went ballistic.
She also threatened to kill some older British pensioners who hadn't had their 2nd Pfizer jab. Again that would have be the effect of a vaccine export ban to the UK.
That is the fundamental nature of the EU though. It is not a trade block it is a proto superstate and protectionist racket. von der Leyen has exposed this nature to the world
 
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