Coronavirus (2021) thread

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blueparrot said:
She wasn’t right. She thought the vaccine she’d had that was giving her hope was now obsolete and she and everyone would be locked away for another year while a new one was developed and that my not work if it mutates again.
It isn’t good people in their later years living alone fearing they might spend them locked away not being able to travel to see their grandchildren grow up, get married, graduate from university. Just because they listen to radio 2 all day or get the Daily Mail for their news.
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She's half right. JVT said we should be concerned. The very fact that we've got surge testing going on in Moss Side and Fallowfield this morning just because we've found 4 cases tells you that the authorities are very worried. I am too. We've gone from finishing this in May to finishing it in October but I don't quite trust the picture we've been given.

It was only about a week ago that Novovax (coming to the UK potentially) claimed 60% effectiveness against the SA variant) so general scepticism is required.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Anyone else agree it's a fucking disgrace that we are still in lockdown ?

Let's ruin peoples businesses, stop people getting cancer treatment, watch people suicide rates keep rising all in the name of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.

Disgusting.
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Yes I don't agree with a lot of what is happening at all. The mental health impact is massive and the male suicide rates very high - the goverment has been taken over by the scientists who are now ordering people what to do every day.
 
Marvin said:
Before all this vaccine talk blew up India was interesting as they seem to have hot herd immunity in their cities without ever having a lot of death. Clearly different regions and populations experience this differently. An age effect or past exposure to coronaviruses or something else?
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Think the age will be a lot to do with it majority of deaths as we know are in the older population average UK age 40 whereas it's 26 in India
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Anyone else agree it's a fucking disgrace that we are still in lockdown ?

Let's ruin peoples businesses, stop people getting cancer treatment, watch people suicide rates keep rising all in the name of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.

Disgusting.
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No, and more importantly my daughter working on a cancer ward, says no too. Her hospital came very close to being overwhelmed,she was ringing us up in tears some nights, the lockdown saved it. It’s just getting to manageable levels. Start of March is soon enough to begin some lifting.
 
mosssideblue said:
Wtf are you on about.
I think you need to expand on what you believe you think I have said about not taking the vaccine.
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You said you wouldn't be taking it when it was offered to you first time. You wanted to see how things panned out. We discussed this at length last autumn.
 
blueparrot said:
No, and more importantly my daughter working on a cancer ward, says no too. Her hospital came very close to being overwhelmed,she was ringing us up in tears some nights, the lockdown saved it. It’s just getting to manageable levels. Start of March is soon enough to begin some lifting.
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I think people forget about nurses, doctors and those that work on the front line when they think we shouldn't be in lockdown.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Anyone else agree it's a fucking disgrace that we are still in lockdown ?

Let's ruin peoples businesses, stop people getting cancer treatment, watch people suicide rates keep rising all in the name of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.

Disgusting.
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That's a bold assertion whilst we still have a very high infection rate, hospitals bulging and deaths still far too many.

What would you propose, gen question
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yes I don't agree with a lot of what is happening at all. The mental health impact is massive and the male suicide rates very high - the goverment has been taken over by the scientists who are now ordering people what to do every day.
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the scientists know a damn site more than the Government wrt this virus
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
You said you wouldn't be taking it when it was offered to you first time. You wanted to see how things panned out. We discussed this at length last autumn.
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You clearly have picked up someone elses view. I said I had to be certain it would not harm me or members of my family before we decide to take it, and rightly so considering the circumstances. Nothing to do on how it affected others
 
blueparrot said:
No, and more importantly my daughter working on a cancer ward, says no too. Her hospital came very close to being overwhelmed,she was ringing us up in tears some nights, the lockdown saved it. It’s just getting to manageable levels. Start of March is soon enough to begin some lifting.
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Isn't that what the nightingale hospitals were built for ? The ones that didn't end up with a single patient in them.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
I am not saying they don't mate.
But I object to the tone of them and ordering people what to do every day, we didn't elect them. They have taken over too much.
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They dont govern (order what we do), they advise. The decisions on how we are to behave still come from government who can either heed or ignore the scientific advice and I know which I prefer
 
mosssideblue said:
You clearly have picked up someone elses view. I said I had to be certain it would not harm me or members of my family before we decide to take it, and rightly so considering the circumstances. Nothing to do on how it affected others
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No that is what you said, you wouldn't be taking it first time.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Anyone else agree it's a fucking disgrace that we are still in lockdown ?

Let's ruin peoples businesses, stop people getting cancer treatment, watch people suicide rates keep rising all in the name of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.

Disgusting.
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The worst part for me is all the people that are dead, but hey i guess we all see things differently.
 
just a personal feeling and comment - when the spring gets warmer and the cases are crashing, plus the vaccinations and antibodies dominating the population, the restrictions will begin to be lifted in stages (probably from March to be honest). At some point over the summer we'll be allowed out for meals and into each other's houses.

As much as there are arguments for further restrictions in the autumn, in some form, i wouldnt be surprised if the general appetite and adherence to them absolutely crashes and burns. I'm just not sure people are willing to put up with it again. For better or worse.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yes lost my dad already through drink. I don't blame people what else can they do?
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I sympathise with people who have an addiction of any kind, whether it be drinking, eating, smoking, gambling or whatever. However, I don't agree with the "what else can they do?" line. They could:-

- go for a walk
- do some gardening
- read a book
- play a computer game
- play a board game
- watch TV
- surf the internet
- do some baking
- learn a new skill

and that's just off the top of my head.
 
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