Media Thread 2020/21

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garth crooks team of the week

the best quote bar none i have ever read hahahahahahahaah


Foden: I have selected Phil Foden in my team of the week but I must confess I do not see him being ahead of Jack Grealish, James Maddison or Mason Mount. He is undoubtedly talented but at Manchester City, he is surrounded by better, more gifted players. How can he not flourish



wash your mouth out crooks you dirty hatefulness bitterness man
Foden is not yet ready to take over from the adults? Does that mean he needs to go out on loan, how long have the media been saying he needs to play more?
 
The last time I cared about Garth Crooks opinion was (checks diary) never. The idea that city shouldn't get any credit because we are better then everyone else so success is expected is becoming increasingly pervasive. It is also why Pep gets little credit for solving problems and why our injuries are always downplayed.

It does get frustrating when that success is firmly placed on the wealth of Abu Dhabi. It is obviously a factor but we have the same constraints on our squad and buying power as everyone else. We are just better at working within those constraints than anyone. 100% our players cost a lot of money but arguable our most important players in the Abu Dhabi era ie Zabba, Kompany, Aguero, Dave, Yaya and Ferna cost individually less than Andy Carol and Rio Ferdinand.

Our more expensive signings ie Stones, Dias, Mahrez, Raheem, Ederson, Cancelo are either comparable to other players around or favourable compared to Maguire for instance. Mahrez is perhaps the exception and Mendy due to his injury record.

Rodri stands out as a pricey signing for his position. Bernardo also was potentially a "high" figure but has proven good value. Gundo cost less than Thiago and Veron 20 years ago.

You can also consider Foden cost us nothing, Zinchenko and Delph who had key roles in record breaking seasons were pretty cheap. KDB has been a bargain.

Our younger signings such as Jesus and Torres compare very favourably to Sheffield United spending £25m on Brewster. Sane stands out as an expensive young signing but we made a profit and got good value whilst he was with us.

Obviously I'm ignoring Mangala and some of the other duff signings to prove a point but we've done well because on the whole we've bought good players for fair prices and employed the best coach in the world. If you consider squad cost per trophies won as an indicator of value then we probably have the "cheapest" team in the league.

We've done it with Man City money thanks to FFP, with a fraud as a manager and with no fans in the stadium. I wouldn't swap if for anyone else
 
Souness is usually a pretty fair pundit but he looks out of sorts tonight.

‘Phil Foden is arguably better than Mason Mount...’

Fuck me Graeme, any other pearls of wisdom you want to share with us?
He doesn't look too well, a bit frail imo. Generally he speaks sense, and after the game he was balanced about Phil Foden..... Micah on the other hand...
 
Tomorrows Mirror
The oil cheats may have streaked 10 points clear of the injury-hit champions after luckily escaping a Red card for a terribly cynical foul by one of their trillion billion pound mercenary signings but football is the real loser. Allison had clearly not recovered from his recent illness and the way the City team exploited him was disgustingly immoral as is par the course for this rancid sporting organization. Null and void the season is the growing call among the football journalist community. The only way teams like Liverpool & United who develop local talent and pay moderate transfer fee's can compete with the Stockport bitters is having a snarling crowd evening up the financially doped scales. City may indeed win it but outside of a few streets in Cheadle Hulme and Bramhall, who really cares.
Were they fireworks going off outside the ground during the game or something else...... hope the players bus was ok. The cheeky young scallywags.
 
He doesn't look too well, a bit frail imo. Generally he speaks sense, and after the game he was balanced about Phil Foden..... Micah on the other hand...
It has been noticeable for a while hope he is well and what we are seeing is simply him ageing, always like him from him being a Boro player, even at Liverpool (noting the hatred was not that bad in his day, constrained to good kick offs off the field) thought he peaked while at Rangers.
 
The second paragraph is so incredibly patronising:

At the moment Foden, as was the case against Liverpool, puts the finishing touches to fine team performances, leaving the grown-ups such as Gundogan and Sterling and De Bruyne - when fit - to break the bow of the opposition. He's young and has time but he's not ready to take over from the adults just yet.

Apart from being wrong. Its disrespectful
Spot on. That really is patronising, I couldn't believe what I was reading. Very, very disrespectful - not only to Foden but to others in the team. I think if you asked the 'adults' in our team, they will say that Foden is having a huge influence on how we play and the intensity at which we play at. The 'adults' love him...that's clear just by the celebration for his goal on Sunday.

I agree he isn't the finished article - and honestly, we should all be worried if he is - but I would also say that for a 20 year old, to have such influence and stature within this team and the level of performance that is demanded, that is far, far harder to achieve than the levels that Grealish, Maddison etc are at within their teams. It is abundantly clear that the 'grown-ups' and the manager trust Foden to be a much bigger player than just applying finishing touches to the other players moves. But then Crooks was one of those who also wanted Foden to go out on loan.......these latest words prove again that he's clueless.
 
Ruben shouldn’t have put his arm on him but the dive from salad was utterly fucking pathetic, if that had been Sterling or any City player he would be getting dogs abuse from the media. Still not seen any lines for John Stones disallowed goal, yet for other teams disallowed goals we are getting lines from arses to armpits, fucking joke
We know the stories about VAR at Klanfield. There fucking isn't any.
 
Football 365's Mediawatch have called out Crooks on his nonsense. Nice to see we're not the only people who think he's a clueless bellend.
Not quite sure how Crooks retains his paid position with BBC Sport tbh. Every year he’s back, every time adding zero value or insight at all.
 
Why is it in football that the old ex players think it's better to go out on load and get kicked to shit in lower leagues ?

In any other industry you want to learn from the best.

Yet football it is seemed as wrong if you are learning from the worlds best manager and some of the worlds best players. So now its Phil is going to be judged harder than Grealish because phil is in a better team . For fuck sake Phil go and sign for WBA than the press/media will love you lol. Well crooks and the press/media really good players play for really good teams ;)
How can that be wrong ? I really dont understand crooks or the press/media views. How many young players have the ex pros and press/media brought through ? None they know jack shit about bring kids through apart from throw them out on load !.
Come on now, everyone knows Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't be the players they are had they not spent those loan spells at kidderminster and altrincham.
 
Meanwhile can we all take a minute to pray for poor Miggy, who didn't get the title race he, his media chums and 95% or Ireland’s population wanted after all...

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The f*cker is truly deluded if the thinks the 08/09 title race was anywhere near 11/12.
 
Is it hate or bitterness or just that he's clueless about football?

both ?

how can anybody watching the city vs liverpool game not see phil foden's talent ? it was a big flashing blue light above his head. he not only scored a great goal but setup 2 others ? if he was in a red shirt it would be close the book on talent his boy is the best
 
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