Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Looking at the figures so far the take up is incredibly high compared to any vaccine previously. You will never achieve 100% take up but as the roll out continues and those that won't have it see their unvaccinated family and friends still falling ill and possibly dying because of Covid I'd expect a further increase in take up in all groups after the vast bulk of the population has been done.
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So my question about this is hearing a report, last week, that (at the time) 97% of the vaccine takers are the Caucasian population.

I, myself, haven't vaccinated yet because the docs told me they weren't sure if the vaccine would reactivate my sarcoid, which nearly killed me 13 years ago.

So, generally speaking (or anecdotally) it seems the BAME population is less trusting.

I wonder why that is?
 
Bigga said:
So my question about this is hearing a report, last week, that (at the time) 97% of the vaccine takers are the Caucasian population.

I, myself, haven't vaccinated yet because the docs told me they weren't sure if the vaccine would reactivate my sarcoid, which nearly killed me 13 years ago.

So, generally speaking (or anecdotally) it seems the BAME population is less trusting.

I wonder why that is?
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It's a fact that minority groups have a lower take up and to be honest I can't understand that as statistically they have a higher risk of dying from Covid. The notion that there is some sort of endemic racism within the NHS which is putting them off being vaccinated also seems bizarre to me.
 
The NICE Committee needs to resign en-masse. 4 studies were reviewed in September - 3 showing g Vit D was super important in reducing Covid deaths were thrown out. One showing marginal benefit was accepted.
A larger randomised trial from Barcelona is now out and it shows that 60% less deaths would have happened had large doses of Calcitriol been given to patients on admission to hospital.
(Note: Calcitriol is the hormone that the body converts Vitamin D into after 7 days)

Study finds Vitamin D reduces Covid deaths by 60%

The study evaluated the effectiveness of calcifediol - a Vitamin D3 - on more than 550 people admitted to the Covid-19 wards of the Hospital del Mar in…
news.knowledia.com news.knowledia.com
 
I see Amanda Holden is "devastated" at breaking the lockdown rules on unnecessary travel. She travelled over 200 miles after receiving a "distressing" call from her father. Now, I do sympathise. It's a terrible position to find yourself in. But how many people have lost loved ones during the past year, and couldn't be there with them in their last moments, or be at their funeral. Look at Pep and Klopp, to use two well known people. She's accepted that she was in the wrong, but argues that both her parents have been vaccinated, and that she is tested weekly, therfore the risk was minimal. Still broke the rules though.


Also, it was pure coincidence that this happened on her birthday, of course.


She also apparently has a sister who lives in the same part of the country (Cornwall) as her parents.

www.bbc.com

Amanda Holden 'devastated' at lockdown rule break - BBC News

The Britain's Got Talent judge admits she travelled over 200 miles after a "distressing" call from her parents.
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jimharri said:
I see Amanda Holden is "devastated" at breaking the lockdown rules on unnecessary travel. She travelled over 200 miles after receiving a "distressing" call from her father. Now, I do sympathise. It's a terrible position to find yourself in. But how many people have lost loved ones during the past year, and couldn't be there with them in their last moments, or be at their funeral. Look at Pep and Klopp, to use two well known people. She's accepted that she was in the wrong, but argues that both her parents have been vaccinated, and that she is tested weekly, therfore the risk was minimal. Still broke the rules though.


Also, it was pure coincidence that this happened on her birthday, of course.


She also apparently has a sister who lives in the same part of the country (Cornwall) as her parents.

www.bbc.com

Amanda Holden 'devastated' at lockdown rule break - BBC News

The Britain's Got Talent judge admits she travelled over 200 miles after a "distressing" call from her parents.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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I think I can accept someone in those circumstances fessing up and agreeing she acted hastily amid what would have been a huge dilemma for any one of us.

We should not be going after her because she is a celeb - the only reason this is even newsworthy and not 99% of the similar stories that happen every day with people who do not give a stuff that they acted this way or even think they did anything wrong.

Happily I was never a celeb or anything like one but I have faced tabloids making up stories or exaggerating truth into a twisted version of it because they can and think it 'in the public interest to do that regardless of who you are. Though thankfully laws have tightened up a bit since the days anyone in the media would write about me.

The media should focus on dealing with the real problems of lockdown here not looking for stories by sifting through the rubbish left over each night in the bins of celebrity lives.

Like family kept apart from parents in hospital with Covid whilst the social system tries to find a way to get them home but has no money to do so.

How many thinking what Amanda did here was wrong would have broken the rules if they were being kept away from a parent in distress in hospital they know they might never see again?
 
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Update on vaccine side effects, having had the AZ jab yesterday.

Felt a bit weird and “not quite there”, if you know what I mean, for about an hour. That passed quickly.

Had really cold hands all day, but manageable.

Now, all that is left is a slightly sore arm.

Its totally worth having and we need to try to convince the naysayers that it’s no big deal and our quickest route to normality.
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Had mine about an hour ago, nothing yet but the arm does feel a little sore.
Very impressed with the process, in and out in just over five minutes, had the AZ jab, had to wait 15 minutes before driving again, had the option of sitting in the facility or waiting in my car, chose the latter.
I have the paracetamol on stand by just in case.
 
Healdplace said:
I think I can accept someone in those circumstances fessing up and agreeing she acted hastily amid what would have been a huge dilemma for any one of us.

We should not be going after her because she is a celeb - the only reason this is even newsworthy and not 99% of the similar stories that happen every day with people who do not give a stuff that they acted this way or even think they did anything wrong.

Happily I was never a celeb or anything like one but I have faced tabloids making up stories or exaggerating truth into a twisted version of it because they can and think it 'in the public interest to do that regardless of who you are. Though happily laws have tightened up a bit since the days anyone in the media would write about me.

The media should focus on dealing with the real problems of lockdown here not looking for stories by sifting through the rubbish left over each night in the bins of celebrity lives.
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There was no need for her to travel. She has a sister living a lot closer to her parents than she does. Also, this just happened to occur on her birthday? Riiight.
 
jimharri said:
There was no need for her to travel. She has a sister living a lot closer to her parents than she does. Also, this just happened to occur on her birthday? Riiight.
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Her birthday is this Tuesday, I'm not sure it's a factor personally. It all depends on what the issue was with her stepdad (I know way too much about her!!).

Non story, probably.
 
jimharri said:
There was no need for her to travel. She has a sister living a lot closer to her parents than she does. Also, this just happened to occur on her birthday? Riiight.
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But if it had been Amanda Smith from Bury who threw a party in her dad's house as he was lonely and to hell with the rules as they are 'mean to my family' then would it have made the news?

The story should be the story not the storyteller.
 
Healdplace said:
I think I can accept someone in those circumstances fessing up and agreeing she acted hastily amid what would have been a huge dilemma for any one of us.

We should not be going after her because she is a celeb - the only reason this is even newsworthy and not 99% of the similar stories that happen every day with people who do not give a stuff that they acted this way or even think they did anything wrong.

Happily I was never a celeb or anything like one but I have faced tabloids making up stories or exaggerating truth into a twisted version of it because they can and think it 'in the public interest to do that regardless of who you are. Though thankfully laws have tightened up a bit since the days anyone in the media would write about me.

The media should focus on dealing with the real problems of lockdown here not looking for stories by sifting through the rubbish left over each night in the bins of celebrity lives.

Like family kept apart from parents in hospital with Covid whilst the social system tries to find a way to get them home but has no money to do so.

How many thinking what Amanda did here was wrong would have broken the rules if they were being kept away from a parent in distress in hospital they know they might never see again?
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I agree with this.

I think most people would have gone.

The rules are there to follow but in exceptional circumstances I’d break them.
 
Healdplace said:
But if it had been Amanda Smith from Bury who threw a party in her dad's house as he was lonely and to hell with the rules as they are 'mean to my family' then would it have made the news?
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No, it wouldn't. But that comes with celebrity status. Dominic Cummings got slaughtered last spring for his jaunt up to Barnard Castle. Rightly or wrongly, you're under scrutiny all the time. You can't go courting the media some of the time, then slate them at other times. The media don't care about your feelings. They build you up, then knock you down.


Not having a go at you, by the way.
 
jimharri said:
No, it wouldn't. But that comes with celebrity status. Dominic Cummings got slaughtered last spring for his jaunt up to Barnard Castle. Rightly or wrongly, you're under scrutiny all the time. You can't go courting the media some of the time, then slate them at other times. The media don't care about your feelings. They build you up, then knock you down.


Not having a go at you, by the way.
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Believe me I know. And I would not mind if you were getting at me, This is all about opinions and they are bound to differ based on experience.

I have sadly been there, done that at the hands of more than one tabloid who got about 20% of the story right because I declined to 'help them by speaking up and 'telling the truth' (as in what they wanted to BE the truth).

But as the BBC once told me - you wait and see what this will do to our ratings They were right, of course. But it was galling that this mattered more than truth even years ago. Nowadays I dread to think what truth is any more.

I just hate the way stories are manipulated by both sides for different reasons and what really happened is often barely of much consequence unless it sells papers or can be used to rubbish a rival tabloid who got the story wrong.
 
Wales vaccination data:

771, 651 first doses given - 22, 206 yesterday - down from 33, 501

4573 second doses - 349 yesterday - up from 214
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
But why is that? They are begging anyone who hasn't been vaccinated in your mother's group to come forward, even at the expense of deliberately delaying the roll out to younger groups in many areas. What have you done to ensure your mother receives her vaccination? Have you tried to book an appointment online but have been unable to do so?
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She is not the only one. Mother in law only got it Friday. If you live in an old pit village in Co Durham the vaccine may not be as quick to reach you. I have spoke to the practice manager who assured me they will get to the last batch of over 80s in the next few days. This is with appointment dates. Just highlighting Boris's will say anything and has no ideas what is going on at ground level. We even have some non essential shops open. Unless of course shops selling local crafts, blinds shops and a shop selling second hand furniture are now classed as "essential". I work as a bus driver and in certain areas we have put on extra services due to demand in the last few weeks.
 
Healdplace said:
Believe me I know. And I would not mind if you were getting at me, This is all about opinions and they are bound to differ based on experience.

I have sadly been there, done that at the hands of more than one tabloid who got about 20% of the story right because I declined to 'help them by speaking up and 'telling the truth' (as in what they wanted to BE the truth).

But as the BBC once told me - you wait and see what this will do to our ratings They were right, of course. But it was galling that this mattered more than truth even years ago. Nowadays I dread to think what truth is any more.

I just hate the way stories are manipulated by both sides for different reasons and what really happened is often barely of much consequence unless it sells papers or can be used to rubbish a rival tabloid who got the story wrong.
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I take my hat off to you..the figures and time spent posting are amazing..you clearly are a great journalist..the sad truth is that people like yourself who may question matters may be ignored. Keep going and dont give up. We need people like you to present the truth.
 
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