Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Not a great day for Greater Manchester sadly Up by 53 of the 71 the NW rose by - bumping up the GM percentage by 1.6% to 45. 8%

The blame today is firmly on one borough - Stockport. Account for 32 of that 53 rise (to 96) on their own and highest here in 10 days.

Also a big week to week jump , the highest Pop Score rise in GM today (very unusual for Stockport) and close to the same cases as Manchester who were down at their lowest number in weeks (106).

No idea where today came from because most other boroughs did well. Three boroughs in the 30s And everyone else except Bury down week to week.

Probably just a one off day but it puts Trafford now 26 in front on the best Pop Score in GM when only two or three weeks ago they were nearly 200 behind.

So Trafford outperforming Stockport in a big way right now.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Which is depressing - as sometimes predictions are off and the vaccine is much less effective than anticipated - and often many people come down with the flu each year in spite of the availability of vaccines.

COVID-19 unfortunately is much more lethal than the flu (save for certain - e.g, 1918 - flu variants).

Worst case - vaccinations just prevent infection from the previous strain - to ensure safety of the populace, extant distancing/masking/safety protocols are necessary perhaps in a slightly attenuated form - which obviously has a massive impact on our economy.

On the whole, a deadly, mutating virus able to evade vaccines - is a very upsetting development.

Yet I've some hope - as bioengineering is experiencing exponential growth in sophistication. We might well develop some sort of silver bullet in the next decade or two.
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I’ve been out today so missed some of the recent discussions but as far as I am aware, the vaccines are doing very well. It’s only the South African strain Thst significantly reduced Ed the effectiveness of the vaccines against routine illness, as far as I am aware.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I’ve been out today so missed some of the recent discussions but as far as I am aware, the vaccines are doing very well. It’s only the South African strain Thst significantly reduced Ed the effectiveness of the vaccines against routine illness, as far as I am aware.
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Watch this interview with Michael Osterholm if you're able to:
www.pbs.org

Michael Osterholm

Epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm says new COVID-19 strains will likely cause cases to surge in March. Osterholm, who was on Biden's transition task force, says the U.S. needs to revise its vaccine and mask strategies now to save lives.
www.pbs.org
 
worsleyweb said:
i will let you know in ten to twenty years.
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Well, at least you're on Bluemoon - so you're reading differing opinions - will this deprogram you? I hope so. At least it may get you thinking.

Science isn't partisan - it's just facts - and perhaps expert opinion on what to do given the facts.

Politics in stark opposition to science should be questioned - why are such non-expert politicians so confident in their approach - and more to the point - better informed than life-long experts in the field?
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Well, at least you're on Bluemoon - so you're reading differing opinions - will this deprogram you? I hope so. At least it may get you thinking.

Science isn't partisan - it's just facts - and perhaps expert opinion on what to do given the facts.

Politics in stark opposition to science should be questioned - why are such non-expert politicians so confident in their approach - and more to the point - better informed than life-long experts in the field?
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The virus is not going away we need to learn to live with it

Country’s can’t stay in lockdown, let’s be honest as a virus it’s not that deadly
 
Hutchymcfc said:
The virus is not going away we need to learn to live with it

Country’s can’t stay in lockdown, let’s be honest as a virus it’s not that deadly
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> The virus is not going away we need to learn to live with it
Unfortunately so.

> let’s be honest as a virus it’s not that deadly
Unless, you think that somewhere between 0.5 to 2% of all individuals contracting COVID-19 will die and that roughly 3 to 10% of individuals contracting the disease will require emergency hospitalization (and subsequent long term health effects) - then I strongly disagree with you.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Watch this interview with Michael Osterholm if you're able to:
www.pbs.org

Michael Osterholm

Epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm says new COVID-19 strains will likely cause cases to surge in March. Osterholm, who was on Biden's transition task force, says the U.S. needs to revise its vaccine and mask strategies now to save lives.
www.pbs.org
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Thanks. Michael Osterholm makes a very powerful cases for not taking our eye off the Covid ball. This is also a strong case for global solutions and world wide vaccinations.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
> The virus is not going away we need to learn to live with it
Unfortunately so.

> let’s be honest as a virus it’s not that deadly
Unless, you think that somewhere between 0.5 to 2% of all individuals contracting COVID-19 will die and that roughly 3 to 10% of individuals contracting the disease will require emergency hospitalization (and subsequent long term health effects) - then I strongly disagree with you.
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No where near 2%
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Thanks. Michael Osterholm makes a very powerful cases for not taking our eye off the Covid ball. This is also a strong case for global solutions and world wide vaccinations.
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That’s his specialty and I doubt any country is taking its eye off the ball but he’s not a virologist who’s field of expertise centres on the virus and mutations.
 
It’s a very sad day personally as my dad lost his 3 week fight against covid today, we are very fortunate to of been allowed in today, oxygen reduced and morphine given, he passed as Sterling scored bizarrely as the notification appeared on my phone, a blue through and through and a sorely missed father and grandfather and unfortunately a stat for tomorrow, sleep well my dad, I love you.
 
i8rags said:
It’s a very sad day personally as my dad lost his 3 week fight against covid today, we are very fortunate to of been allowed in today, oxygen reduced and morphine given, he passed as Sterling scored bizarrely as the notification appeared on my phone, a blue through and through and a sorely missed father and grandfather and unfortunately a stat for tomorrow, sleep well my dad, I love you.
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Condolences mate.
 
i8rags said:
It’s a very sad day personally as my dad lost his 3 week fight against covid today, we are very fortunate to of been allowed in today, oxygen reduced and morphine given, he passed as Sterling scored bizarrely as the notification appeared on my phone, a blue through and through and a sorely missed father and grandfather and unfortunately a stat for tomorrow, sleep well my dad, I love you.
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oh dear sorry to read that.
 
i8rags said:
It’s a very sad day personally as my dad lost his 3 week fight against covid today, we are very fortunate to of been allowed in today, oxygen reduced and morphine given, he passed as Sterling scored bizarrely as the notification appeared on my phone, a blue through and through and a sorely missed father and grandfather and unfortunately a stat for tomorrow, sleep well my dad, I love you.
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Sorry to hear your news blue, take care
 
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