Erling Haaland

[MillisleBlue]

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If Carlsberg did transfer windows...

 

[LongsightM13]

Yes, recall that now. So Liverpool have likely already spent the Coutinho money...

You never know, it seems to be never ending!!

They’ve still whistling for the variables. That £4.5m would probably have covered Kabak and Davies

 

[Dobsy]

There absolutely aren't.

Liverpool are not in the equation full stop.

They couldn't even give Klopp money in January for a central defender.

They have made no big sales and spending £45m on Jota only added to their striker quota.

Mane or Salah could exit and then they're in the game surely? I'm not saying that's *likely*, just that it's within reason that they could compete with a combination of moves.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Mane or Salah could exit and then they're in the game surely? I'm not saying that's *likely*, just that it's within reason that they could compete with a combination of moves.

Of course, but that is why I have stated it is a perfect storm, perhaps?

Liverpool would demand at least £100m each for both Salad and Mane.

Who is going to pay that when those who might have the money (which will be confined to maybe three or four clubs) can buy a younger and better player in Haaland for the next ten years for a similar amount?

Liverpool made a huge mistake and missed the boat last summer not selling one of those two.

They have held on to depreciating assets in a market downturn where you can get better bang for your buck elsewhere.

 

[Kompany Car]

Of course, but that is why I have stated it is a perfect storm, perhaps?

Liverpool would demand at least £100m each for both Salad and Mane.

Who is going to pay that when those who might have the money (which will be confined to maybe three or four clubs) can buy a younger and better player in Haaland for the next ten years for a similar amount?

Liverpool made a huge mistake and missed the boat last summer selling one of those two.

They have held on to depreciating assets in a market downturn where you can get better bang for your buck elsewhere.

Salah and Mane would also be looking for one last mega pay day as both are 28 going on 29. So it’s not just transfer fees but also salary.
No matter how much they look after themselves wingers don’t go on beyond 33/34 at the very highest level, particularly as pace is a big part of their game.

 

[FantasyIreland]

My bad, doh!

What are his gnashers like?

Easy mistake to make......

Fabinho does have a bit of bite,in fairness.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Salah and Mane would also be looking for one last mega pay day as both are 28 going on 29. So it’s not just transfer fees but also salary.
No matter how much they look after themselves wingers don’t go on beyond 33/34 at the very highest level, particularly as pace is a big part of their game.

They are an ageing team.

Van Dijk is 30 this summer, Henderson and an out of contract Wynaldum already there.

Milner is 35, while Salah and Mane will both be 29 this summer, with little chance of earning big moves unless Liverpool reduce their valuations.

Thiago 30 this summer, Firmino in October.

It's really poor planning.

 

[kun]

They are an ageing team.

Van Dijk is 30 this summer, Henderson and an out of contract Wynaldum already there.

Milner is 35, while Salah and Mane will both be 29 this summer, with little chance of earning big moves unless Liverpool reduce their valuations.

Thiago 30 this summer.

It's really poor planning.

If they had gone for younger players they would have either:

a. Spent well beyond their means
or
b. Won fuck all

They have put all their eggs in the Klopp basket and if they don't sell on their assets asap they could be in trouble.

 

[Dobsy]

Of course, but that is why I have stated it is a perfect storm, perhaps?

Liverpool would demand at least £100m each for both Salad and Mane.

Who is going to pay that when those who might have the money (which will be confined to maybe three or four clubs) can buy a younger and better player in Haaland for the next ten years for a similar amount?

Liverpool made a huge mistake and missed the boat last summer not selling one of those two.

They have held on to depreciating assets in a market downturn where you can get better bang for your buck elsewhere.

Yes fair, it's hard to see who will go for them other than maybe PSG if Real pay out for Mbappe. I don't buy that Levy will let Kane go to team up with Pochettino again given how long Kane's tied down.

 

[Centurions]

Coutinho is injured

He is, and according to transfermarkt he's due back at the end of April. La Liga ends at the end of May which would give him a month to get fit enough to play after a full 4 months out. This presuming everything goes to plan for him.

All moot given later posts perhaps.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

If they had gone for younger players they would have either:

a. Spent well beyond their means
or
b. Won fuck all

They have put all their eggs in the Klopp basket and if they don't sell on their assets asap they could be in trouble.

Agreed. That's what I am saying. They are not in the Haaland equation or for any top player this summer.

They won't get the fees they need to bring in the type of players that will make a long term difference for them.

They can only tread water and hope their key players stay fit and firing.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

His dad has an awful lot of say, defacto agent.

He can get top money anywhere, but they do have a vision and road map as to what will suit him best.

As I said the other day, it may well be a perfect storm opportunity, simply because I don't see Barca or Madrid having the current lure or resources to make it happen.

I have felt for a while that he wants to come 'home' to England, and that the two main clubs we must concern ourselves with are United and Chelsea.

We have our own blue-tinted lense, but those clubs will also have their appeal and pitches.

However, the fact we can pitch the Aguero replacement/successor, Pep and a team full of winners, coupled with the old man's former association, people would have to be ignorant to dismiss we have a wonderful chance of persuading him.

And that's before paying him top wages.

Now imagine if that equation could include playing with Messi for a couple of years?

The boy and Alfie have been very smart with their decisions up to this point, nothing I hear on the grapevine suggests they suffer fools.

Of the potential moves for Haaland this summer, I’d rule Bayern out this summer, they’ll try and persuade him to stay another season and get him cheap. That realistically leaves Chelsea, United, PSG, Real and ourselves. Real appear to be aiming for Mbappe but that may be another season away. PSG are more likely to go for Messi but may be less active this summer with the problems with the French tv deal.

That leaves Chelsea, United and ourselves. Haaland must have considered united before Dortmund so they have some groundwork done. Solskjaer would appear to be a positive factor there. Chelsea have a young team with a decent attack but completely unbalanced. The have lots of defenders but no quality. Obviously we have Pep and a very good team so if its purely down to football we must be in a very good position to hand him.

A dream summer for me would see Mahrez sold, Mendy moved on and Fernandinho moving into coaching while we bring in Haaland, Messi, Alaba and Grealish. We’d probably have a net spend of around £130/140m by virtue of obligation to buy on loanees and leverage with Dortmund and Villa on Sancho/ Luiz.

 

[blue61]

Yes, that is the only outlier. Chelsea and United both want centre backs.

United will also have to replace Pogba and are linked to Rice and Grealish.

Thing is, both those teams might try to wing it and buy someone cheaper, just because they know Haaland can be the difference between a good team and a title winning team.

And also secure the main striking position for at least five years before making a profit if he comes good.

It is highly likely Liverpool will need new centre backs as the two they have added in January are unlikely to be the answer. Both Gomez and Matip are injury prone. History says that players coming back from ACL as we have witnessed ourselves struggle with muscular injuries the following season as well, this effects VVD.

I would expect their transfers to be concentrated there.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Agreed. That's what I am saying. They are not in the Haaland equation or for any top player this summer.

They won't get the fees they need to bring in the type of players that will make a long term difference for them.

They can only tread water and hope their key players stay fit and firing.

Tread water eh?........looks like they are sinking fast to me.

 

[LongsightM13]

Agreed. That's what I am saying. They are not in the Haaland equation or for any top player this summer.

They won't get the fees they need to bring in the type of players that will make a long term difference for them.

They can only tread water and hope their key players stay fit and firing.

They also wont get anything like the fees they have been getting for fringe players either. No way the likes of Sheffield United will be giving them £23m-plus for a striker who has 10 career goals in the Championship in the current market

 

[LongsightM13]

It is highly likely Liverpool will need new centre backs as the two they have added in January are unlikely to be the answer. Both Gomez and Matip are injury prone. History says that players coming back from ACL as we have witnessed ourselves struggle with muscular injuries the following season as well, this effects VVD.

I would expect their transfers to be concentrated there.

Van Dijk probably wont be the same player again. An ACL at 30 will take him 3-6 months of playing regularly to get anywhere close to where he was

 

[Berts Neck]

Agreed. That's what I am saying. They are not in the Haaland equation or for any top player this summer.

They won't get the fees they need to bring in the type of players that will make a long term difference for them.

They can only tread water and hope their key players stay fit and firing.

FSG will keep them for as long as they can and in 2-3 years be hit with a massive problem as performance levels drop off, and they have little transfer value. Milner 35, Wijlnadum leaving, Dijk may never return to previous levels. The Scousers will implode soon enough.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

A lot or their players are late 20s but they have only 2 players over 30 - Adrian and milner, so most of them will be ok yet for a few years yet I'd imagine (although Salah and particularly Mane, and probably more of them rely on high playing with high intensity). The point about getting fees for their players is a valid one though, which is great news seen as FSG seem reluctant to spend.

Not sure there's another coutinho in there, and there definitely isn't another barcelona willing to spunk 150 million on someone like him for the foreseeable

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Of the potential moves for Haaland this summer, I’d rule Bayern out this summer, they’ll try and persuade him to stay another season and get him cheap. That realistically leaves Chelsea, United, PSG, Real and ourselves. Real appear to be aiming for Mbappe but that may be another season away. PSG are more likely to go for Messi but may be less active this summer with the problems with the French tv deal.

That leaves Chelsea, United and ourselves. Haaland must have considered united before Dortmund so they have some groundwork done. Solskjaer would appear to be a positive factor there. Chelsea have a young team with a decent attack but completely unbalanced. The have lots of defenders but no quality. Obviously we have Pep and a very good team so if its purely down to football we must be in a very good position to hand him.

A dream summer for me would see Mahrez sold, Mendy moved on and Fernandinho moving into coaching while we bring in Haaland, Messi, Alaba and Grealish. We’d probably have a net spend of around £130/140m by virtue of obligation to buy on loanees and leverage with Dortmund and Villa on Sancho/ Luiz.

Apparently Dortmund want rag keeper Henderson.

 

[HelloCity]

Liverpool have another league title in them but I think that’s about it. (Or at least one big push)

As far as their evolution goes, it’s highly unlikely any replacement signings would reach the level of their current top crop.

I think the stars just aligned perfectly with the likes of Salah, Mane, Firmino etc. Nobody could have predicted they’d turn out as well as they did. They were hardly ripping up trees on a consistent basis at the top level when they came in. It was pretty much a case of lightning in a bottle.

If they won’t pay the top fees going forward and things start to drift and with Klopp leaving down the line, then I can see Liverpool back to being just another top 4 contender with only ever a small chance of the title.