Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Needles don't bother me mate,but how much stuff do you need in your body.
I would say whatever it takes if it saves your life. Or that of one of your loved ones.

The only real choice here is to be protected and not risk others or to choose to risk both.

Balance of risk is a calculation people will do based on age. But nobody is immune to this. Even teenagers have died.
 
Wales vaccination update:

923, 615 first doses - 7279 yesterday - down from 14, 002 day before and up from 6169 last week

96, 408 second doses - 7355 yesterday - down from 8991 day before and up from 5771 last week

Percentages vaccinated by age group

Over 80 - 91.2%

75 - 79 - 93.4%

70 - 74 - 93%

65- 69- 77%

60 - 64 - 28.4%

59 - 55- 21.7%

54 - 50 - 19.3%
 
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I would say whatever it takes if it saves your life. Or that of one of your loved ones.

The only real choice here is to be protected and not risk others or to choose to risk both.

Balance of risk is a calculation people will do based on age. But nobody is immune to this. Even teenagers have died.
No risk to others mate, retired don't do shops, garage's just walk my dog over the hills and in the country side.Keep well away from people .
 
No risk to others mate, retired don't do shops, garage's just walk my dog over the hills and in the country side.Keep well away from people .

Well that is OK by me. Your choice then.

But might be a long wait for this to be over if too many make that choice as contact with society starts to return to normal as it is most unlikely this virus will go away entirely or morph into something much less dangerous in the short term. Though we might get lucky.
 
According to the Mail today (I know!) the government scientists have told ministers that the success rate of both Pfizer and AZ in keeping people out of hospital is even better than they hoped based on the real world data seen so far. They put it at over 90% with AZ being slightly better than Pfizer but both more than the pre real world use during trials suggested. It also seems to be even more successful with those over 70 at doing thiis.

No wonder the EU are changing tack fast.
 
Sorry, where has the EU changed tack?
The Times yesterday reported both Germany and France are set to approve its use for all based on the new data

I would imagine if so that as key players that will change tack elsewhere in the EU too.
 
The Times yesterday reported both Germany and France are set to approve its use for all based on the new data

I would imagine if so that as key players that will change tack elsewhere in the EU too.
As you acknowledge, the decision is not the EU’s to take; it’s the decision of each Member State, some of which are already using it with people over 65.
 
According to the Mail today (I know!) the government scientists have told ministers that the success rate of both Pfizer and AZ in keeping people out of hospital is even better than they hoped based on the real world data seen so far. They put it at over 90% with AZ being slightly better than Pfizer but both more than the pre real world use during trials suggested. It also seems to be even more successful with those over 70 at doing thiis.

No wonder the EU are changing tack fast.
Science saves the day yet again..
 
As you acknowledge, the decision is not the EU’s to take; it’s the decision of each Member State, some of which are already using it with people over 65.
Yes - sorry - I should have specified that I am meaning the EU as a group of nations not a political entity.
 
England hospital deaths - 149 - with 25 North West.

Always low on Sunday as weekend data but that is down from 258 last week. So big drop.

Though NW deaths up from 23 then.
 
Sorry, where has the EU changed tack?

See my post earlier referencing the Telegraph article today detailing how Germany is looking at extending the time between doses to 60 or 90 days. Article includes direct quotes from German health authorities. They are saying that doing this will save 10-15000 lives.
 
See my post earlier referencing the Telegraph article today detailing how Germany is looking at extending the time between doses to 60 or 90 days. Article includes direct quotes from German health authorities. They are saying that doing this will save 10-15000 lives.
I’ve read it, but that has nothing to do with the EU, which is the point I was making. These are matters for each country.
Countries such as Germany are also having to wrestle with the fact that suppliers are consistently failing to meet their expected targets, so they know that they now have to use all available vaccines and all available strategies. They were late in learning that lesson.
 
Scotland data:

2 deaths - was 5 last week

572 cases - was 822 last week

3.8% positive - was 5.3% last week

837 patients - down 61 from yesterday - was 1132 last week

78 ventilated - up 4 on yesterday - was 99 last week.

Another good day all round it looks.
 
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