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Just a cautionary note on the case numbers.

Pillar 1 & 2 Testing very low in past 2 days.

It was 716, 212 at end of last week to find 8523 cases

But was 589, 191 Saturday to find 7434 cases

Then fell to 367, 716 on Sunday to find 6035 cases.

Happily though it is back up to 510, 944 today for this even lower number of 5455 today.

So no major influence it would seem. But possibly a little impact on the degree of fall in last few days.

Still clearly going downward though.
 
Healdplace said:
Just a cautionary note on the case numbers.

Pillar 1 & 2 Testing very low in past 2 days.

It was 716 K at end of last week

But was 589, 191 Saturday, but fell to 367, 716 on Sunday

Happily though it is back up to 510, 944 today for this even lower number.

So no major influence it would seem.
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Question in my ignorance - Would we not expect the number of tests to start to decline if there are many less people with symptoms needing tests ? I appreciate a number of groups (e.g. City) are getting tested irrespective of symptoms.
 
unicorn said:
Question in my ignorance - Would we not expect the number of tests to start to decline if there are many less people with symptoms needing tests ? I appreciate a number of groups (e.g. City) are getting tested irrespective of symptoms.
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Yes, of course - but that is why the ratio of tests to cases found matters. The positivity number I keep mentioning that the three other nations give you daily and England flat out ignore and make hard to even work out.

If tests fall by nearly 50% as they did in the data above and then rise back up as they did today but still well below the numbers on Friday that is bound to have some impact on the cases found.

But the drop is real - as I noted - just potentially a little exaggerated by the impact of weekend testing.

The positivity rating is the clearest measure as it is cases v tests - complex as that is now with the multiple types of test.
 
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are the rapid lateral slow tests going to be inlcuded?

If so cases will go up next week surely if kids are going to be tested twice a week.
 
Del_Bosque said:
are the rapid lateral slow tests going to be inlcuded?

If so cases will go up next week surely if kids are going to be tested twice a week.
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PCR tests already are included- hence my point about working out the true positivity rating now being difficult because of keep adding different types into the pillar 1 and 2 mix.

Multiple tests on one person could be getting factored in reducing the numbers.

A good guesstimate is to triple that positivity number and it is likely to be near the true positivity - so in the past 4 days case would be in the UK be

3.6% - 3.9% - 4.8% yesterday and 3.3% today.

But it is very much less helpful than it once was and hard to compare across countries as they use different guides - hence why N Ireland has positivity numbers around 14% but they are similar to the 3 or 4 % in the other nations.

Trends up or down are really the only good guide nowadays.

On that basis today is much better v yesterday than yesterday was v Saturday. Even though on both days cases fell. Because tests were up 143K today and down 121K yesterday.

So over the weekend there has still been a real fall.

I think!
 
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Healdplace said:
Yes, of course - but that is why the ratio of tests to cases found matters. The positivity number I keep mentioning that the three other nations give you daily and England flat out ignore and make hard to even work out.

If tests fall by nearly 50% as they did in the data above and then rise back up as they did today but still well below the numbers on Friday that is bound to have some impact on the cases found.

But the drop is real - as I noted - just potentially a little exaggerated by the impact of weekend testing.

The positivity rating is the clearest measure as it is cases v tests - complex as that is now with the multiple types of test.
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Thanks again @Healdplace . Wish we could get as good an analysis of the numbers and caveats on the BBC !
 
Eds said:
Only 185k 1st doses yesterday although that was up around 40k from previous Sunday. Need a big ramp up this month...
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I'm guessing it's a staffing issue if its happening on a Sunday. Or less people booking on to that day as they want Sunday for themselves.
 
TINY said:
My Dads been admitted to hospital today, he’s developed pneumonia on the left side, had a chest infection, and on 15L of oxygen. Any more than that and it’s ICU.
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Hope everything works out OK, he will be well looked after
 
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