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sounds like not the end of the world with kids having been in school all week. Another 3 million vaccinated in that time I would guess. Roadmap continues to feel about right.
The positivity rates are very low but largely meaningless when you are doing 1.5 million tests a day - more than double three weeks ago.

But there has been no big uptick in cases in any of the nations since school returned. Which is certainly good.

As we all know cases are not as important now as the two key metrics - deaths and hospital numbers - both of which continue to plummet.
 
The positivity rates are very low but largely meaningless when you are doing 1.5 million tests a day - more than double three weeks ago.

But there has been no big uptick in cases in any of the nations since school returned. Which is certainly good.

As we all know cases are not as important now as the two key metrics - deaths and hospital numbers - both of which continue to plummet.

and that’s the key isn’t it ? If the vaccines stop people getting seriously ill or dying that’s the main thing isn’t it?

keep jabbing and stick to the unlocking timetable gives us best chance.
 
sounds like not the end of the world with kids having been in school all week. Another 3 million vaccinated in that time I would guess. Roadmap continues to feel about right.
Definitely not the end of the world; case stabilised despite continued record testing and 2 weeks into full return of schools and record vaccinations (hopefully) reducing future cases.
 
GM highlights.

Every borough up on yesterday. Only two down versus last weekend. Some up by a lot.

414 cases versus 302 last Saturday

Up 227 on yesterday, Biggest daily rise in weeks.

But if you add up these two days last week versus yesterday and today this week the picture is different.

It was 456 + 302 = 758 last weekend and this is 187 + 414 = 601


So the anomaly as it very clearly was in testing yesterday created artificial lows yesterday and artificial highs today>

But taken as a 48 hour period this week is about 25% down week to week.

So still on track I think.

Manchester top score on 66 (down wk to wk by 9)

Bolton 58 (34 up wk to wk)

Wigan 56 (24 up wk to wk)

Oldham 45 (13 up wk to wk)

Salford 43 (11 up wk to wk)

Bury 35 (19 up wk to wk)

Tameside 32 (14 up wk to wk)

Rochdale 31 (10 DOWN wk to wk)

Stockport 30 (7 up wk to wk)

Trafford 18 (9 up wk to wk)


So there will be some impact on the great falls in Pop Scores yesterday with some rises BUT the key is over the two days the trend almost everywhere is down.

So good news when you unscramble the glitch.
 
A uk government insider says its extremely unlikely that Britons will be taking foreign holidays this summer..this is really going to hurt people..
Millions will. Heartbreaking. But let’s take the piss out of those who fund it by taking those holidays.
 
Are you missing the context?

goalposts moving. Vaccinate the vulnerable then we will open up. Now we can’t as we now have to wait for variants. What’s next?
I’m still missing any context. Only context required is ,does the vaccination make you and your family safer ,yes or no. End of decision making.
 
Are you missing the context?

goalposts moving. Vaccinate the vulnerable then we will open up. Now we can’t as we now have to wait for variants. What’s next?
I don't think I was missing the context. There is a real point in having the jab. Follow the roadmap laid out and we will be in a good position. There will be no foreign holidays this year as there is no way we can risk the new variants until the vaccines are modified
 
I don't think I was missing the context. There is a real point in having the jab. Follow the roadmap laid out and we will be in a good position. There will be no foreign holidays this year as there is no way we can risk the new variants until the vaccines are modified
There will be foreign holidays this year. Maybe not to every country but selectively based on vaccination rate and cases. Already said that the current vaccines are effective against the new variants. There will be variants for ever more. Vaccines adjusted accordingly each year much like the flu vaccine. Indeed there is international travel now for a variety of reasons.
 
There will be foreign holidays this year. Maybe not to every country but selectively based on vaccination rate and cases. Already said that the current vaccines are effective against the new variants. There will be variants for ever more. Vaccines adjusted accordingly each year much like the flu vaccine. Indeed there is international travel now for a variety of reasons.
Yes very selective international travel. We would have to be crazy to risk bringing back any number of potential new variants, letting loose half the population to the usual tourist hotspots. Europe's not looking too clever is it. Now is the time for really strict border control.
 
HOSPITAL DATA


Headline:

Admissions falling, UK patients under 6000, England under 5000 and UK ventilators below 800 - down a huge 3200 in under 8 weeks. Every region has less than 1000 patients when London alone had 7000 in January. No wonder deaths are tumbling. And most England regions down on both patients and ventilators again.


UK total:


Patients 5607 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 33, 641 in 61 days) :- lowest since 14 October

Ventilators 789 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3288 in 55 days) : lowest since 25 October


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

351 Covid admissions (18 March) - following 343, 364, 431, 357, 385, 386, 449 in the week before.


PATIENTS:-


Patients down 252 in day to 4589 v 6072 last week :- lowest since 15 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 29, 747 in 61 days)

Ventilators: Down in day 39 to 710 v 1000 last week :- lowest since 24 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3026 in 55 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week



East down 28 to 421 v 575 // UP 1 to 75 v 94

London down 45 to 941 v 1190 // down 26 to 211 v 308

Midlands down 93 to 969 v 1356 // down 14 to 155 v 221

NE & Yorks down 22 to 754 v 1003 // UP 1 to 95 v 131

North West down 40 to 779 v 986// down 1 to 89 v 125

South East down 30 to 549 v 733 // UP 1 to 61 v 88

South West down 4 to 176 v 229 // down 1 to 24 v 33
 
Yes very selective international travel. We would have to be crazy to risk bringing back any number of potential new variants, letting loose half the population to the usual tourist hotspots. Europe's not looking too clever is it. Now is the time for really strict border control.
And variants are exclusive to abroad are they? So we wait for the vaccines to be updated? And then another variant or two comes along? Then what?
Let’s see what the ‘task force’ recommends on 12th April. No reason safe travel to well vaccinated countries with low prevalence for vaccinated UK people couldn’t start this summer. Variants will continue forever. Borders can’t be closed forever more.
 
And variants are exclusive to abroad are they? So we wait for the vaccines to be updated? And then another variant or two comes along? Then what?
Let’s see what the ‘task force’ recommends on 12th April. No reason safe travel to well vaccinated countries with low prevalence for vaccinated UK people couldn’t start this summer. Variants will continue forever. Borders can’t be closed forever more.
Obviously not. But the risks increase. We'll be ok to go to Israel and the UAE, maybe even Greenland. Variants per se are not the issue, it's the variant that outwits the vaccine that is
 
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