Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BLUEMATT23 said:
Can someone explain to me this
I live in Sale (Trafford area) and I'm in my 40s so probably have to wait until may for my 1st jab.
I know 3 people younger than me who also live in Trafford with no health conditions and they have had their 1st jab.
Why is this happening?
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It's down to individual surgeries who get given supplies to vaccinate their patients if they have a larger supply than demand rather than waste it they will go outside the current cohort, I believe they have been told not to do this now although am aware that the site on the car park at Morrisons in Winsford will still grab a few shoppers if they have opened a vial at the end of shift which can leave a few doses. If you have a pharmacy based center like that near you may be worth lingering half hour before they close.
 
1.618034 said:
Me too. 9:20 at The John Smiths Stadium in Hudds.

I'm probably immune anyway, having had COVID 2 months ago, but still going for it. Why wouldn't you?
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There was an article last week saying those that had Covid then the jab were more likely to suffer side effects, certainly happened to me and my colleague. Get the paracetamol ready for Tuesday and if necessary whatever you do have a contingency not to work. Good news is the booster is less likely to give you any side effects.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Why would there be criticism? Moderna was never due before spring - I think this is probably in part because Trump block-bought the first 100m.

J&J is still under a month since requesting approval here.
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It doesn’t have to be evidence based criticism mate. Why would there be continuous criticism of Oxford / AZ? Their crime was having a ooor press briefing. IMHO it might be close to the old adage, nobody appreciates a free [or at cost] good. I base that on what I’ve read in articles and posts on here
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Thanks.
She did have problems from surgery that left her with some physical and visual deficits that are outwardly almost invisible.
However she is the strongest person I have ever met and is now a solicitor, living independently.
She has scans every two years and I feel like shitting myself every time they come around.
She thinks she’s invincible.
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My Auntie in her mid thirties had a brain tumour removed in the late 50''s, even with rudimentary surgery it was deemed successful at the time but she wasn't expected to survive more than a few years. She lived a good life, until the mid 80's and passed with a completely unrelated illness.

I think a lot of people like your daughter become very strong because of what they've been through, certainly more resilient than those who are close to them, best of luck to her.
 
ganganvince said:
My Dad (89) is in hospital with kidney and heart issues unlikely to come out alive not allowed in to see him at all.
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That's so sad, at that age living longer is a bonus but the heartache of not being able to see him is distressing, hope you're wrong and he does get out alive.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
It doesn’t have to be evidence based criticism mate. Why would there be continuous criticism of Oxford / AZ? Their crime was having a ooor press briefing. IMHO it might be close to the old adage, nobody appreciates a free [or at cost] good. I base that on what I’ve read in articles and posts on here
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Fair enough, I obviously read it differently to your intentions - stupid internet.

I think there is an element of the people now viewing it as they do the flu vaccine, where it always will be and should be available, and then there is drift on expectations.

It being whipped up and confused by reporting/bumbling/deliberate muddying certainly doesn't help.
 
bumbleblue said:
Why though, I just don’t get it what IS the hardship of having to keep your distance and wear a mask in certain places ,supermarkets say or doctors waiting rooms? It’s not any real hardship is it. Certainly not one that would have me grabbing a pitchfork and flaming torch.
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Supermarkets, transport, doctors - fine. But you can't blame cynics for thinking it wouldn't end there. Cinemas, gigs, restaurants when you're not eating etc. It's a potentially miserable existence. No one wants that, especially when it quite literally shouldn't be necessary if these jabs do their jobs.
 
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May have been just one opinion in sea of opinions from those in these sciences.
Could refer to globally and perhaps travel...I’ve not really followed it up.
 
twosips said:
Supermarkets, doctors - fine. But you can't blame cynics for thinking it wouldn't end there. Cinemas, gigs, restaurants when you're not eating etc. It's a potentially miserable existence. No one wants that, especially when it quite literally shouldn't be necessary if these jabs do their jobs.
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The initial quote about social distancing for years to come makes absolutely no sense.

If anything, the last 12 months has proved beyond all doubt, that simple “hands, face, space” is nowhere near enough to contain this virus.

If it is, why the fuck have we been in the strictest national lockdown in the world for the past 3 months?

Either they think that the vaccines won’t be effective and what they’re actually saying is they plan on imposing lockdowns again in the future, or they’re full of shit.

I don’t see a world where face coverings on public transport/in shops and capacity limits on large events etc. is enough to stop this getting out of hand again, but not too much so people can continue to live a close to “normal” life.
 
hammocity said:
There was an article last week saying those that had Covid then the jab were more likely to suffer side effects, certainly happened to me and my colleague. Get the paracetamol ready for Tuesday and if necessary whatever you do have a contingency not to work. Good news is the booster is less likely to give you any side effects.
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Yeah, I've heard that. Thanks for the heads up though.

I'm fine, so far...
 
somapop said:
May have been just one opinion in sea of opinions from those in these sciences.
Could refer to globally and perhaps travel...I’ve not really followed it up.
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Exactly. I'm sure if we were all to do enough digging then we'd find a plethora of varying opinions on this and all other Covid-related topics. I'm not sure why anyone is taking it as a given. It could end up being a voluntary thing and some may feel comfortable continuing to wear masks even when they aren't compulsory, a bit like you see in a lot of Far East countries.

Personally, I think when you consider the incredible rollout of the jab so far and factor in the efficacy of the vaccine along with how easily we're being told they can be modified to deal with emerging variants then I can see the UK being out of the worst of this and back to relative normality roughly in line with the dates we've seen in the roadmap. It's a different matter for most other European countries and I think they will be a few months behind us but will get there eventually once they're all jabbed up.
 
M18CTID said:
Exactly. I'm sure if we were all to do enough digging then we'd find a plethora of varying opinions on this and all other Covid-related topics. I'm not sure why anyone is taking it as a given. It could end up being a voluntary thing and some may feel comfortable continuing to wear masks even when they aren't compulsory, a bit like you see in a lot of Far East countries.

Personally, I think when you consider the incredible rollout of the jab so far and factor in the efficacy of the vaccine along with how easily we're being told they can be modified to deal with emerging variants then I can see the UK being out of the worst of this and back to relative normality roughly in line with the dates we've seen in the roadmap. It's a different matter for most other European countries and I think they will be a few months behind us but will get there eventually once they're all jabbed up.
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Indeed.
I'm not hugely fussed with having to wear one and I quite enjoyed it when I upgraded to sleeker cotton versions to match the rest of my outfits.
But I had yet another moment in the supermarket check out yesterday when I struck up a conversation with the woman serving me and struggled to hear each other so conversations are a bit stunted.
This is literally the few moments I'm in the store so no biggy...just becoming a little jaded now.
 
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