A thread about protesters

[aguero93:20]

Oops wrong thread....... ;-)

The Irish version is "Fook off you ya Culchie Garrrda"

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

The Irish version is "Fook off you ya Culchie Garrrda"

Sung by Zig and Zag

 

[Blue Mist]

Bombs. Nelson Mandela was a big fan of bombs.

I didn't mention Mandela for that reason, the way the media re branded him was a disgrace. He was a terrorist full stop. I accept that the govt should have talked to him, as they did with Gerry Adams but don't paint him a Saint.

 

[Chippy_boy]

When you have no rights left, when the country is an authoritarian state, when democracy is history and the Road to Serfdom, becomes the Motorway to abject penury, then you will be cast aside by the Capitalist class, you will get no thanks, no reward, you will have no voice, you will just be like everyone else, ordinary, downtrodden, poor and unkempt.

And you will wonder why.

You tell 'em Wolfie.

 

[Blue Mist]

And they were both shot dead.

But they achieved so much by peaceful protest, OK a nut job/government murdered them but it does not take away their legacy. What King achieved regarding equality by peaceful protest was unbelievable.

 

[Chippy_boy]

More seriously, as someone who lives in Bristol myself, I am embarrassed and ashamed of the scenes witnessed last night. The image of our city is being irreparably tainted by the utter scum who were involved in these at the BLM disturbances.

If EVER proof was needed that the police do indeed need stronger powers to deal with human flotsam like these, then last night proves it beyond doubt. There exists and undercurrent utter vermin in our society and the sooner and harder we throw the book at them, the better.

We live in one of the most free and civilised countries on earth and with that freedom comes responsibility. Responsibility to behave, to respect the rule of law and in short, to not be a ****. But if people are hell bent on being cunts then IMO we should treat them as such, with MUCH harder policing and restrictions.

 

[Blue Mist]

You tell 'em Wolfie.

That is a great response :-)

 

[aguero93:20]

But they achieved so much by peaceful protest, OK a nut job/government murdered them but it does not take away their legacy. What King achieved regarding equality by peaceful protest was unbelievable.

I think the last couple of years have shown that King in particular fell well short of what he was trying to achieve.

 

[Blue Mist]

More seriously, as someone who lives in Bristol myself, I am embarrassed and ashamed of the scenes witnessed last night. The image of our city is being irreparably tainted by the utter scum who were involved in these at the BLM disturbances.

If EVER proof was needed that the police do indeed need stronger powers to deal with human flotsam like these, then last night proves it beyond doubt. There exists and undercurrent utter vermin in our society and the sooner and harder we throw the book at them, the better.

As an RWNJ (allegedly) the police do not need more powers. The police and the mainstream of society need to work together to stop these idiots. If the cops work with the organisers of a protest then this sort of mayhem could be stopped.
Not all cops are bad - not all protestors are bad. Talk rather than fight

 

[meltonblue]

It’s not the actions of people like last night that is the concern with the bill though.

 

[Blue Mist]

I think the last couple of years have shown that King in particular fell well short of what he was trying to achieve.

Having read about King and been a youngster in that period I am not sure what you are alluding to. When others saw violence as the only answer to brutality and racism - (murder) he always advocated the peaceful approach.

 

[Chippy_boy]

As an RWNJ (allegedly) the police do not need more powers. The police and the mainstream of society need to work together to stop these idiots. If the cops work with the organisers of a protest then this sort of mayhem could be stopped.
Not all cops are bad - not all protestors are bad. Talk rather than fight

The "controversial" new laws mate, include such radical ideas as being able to limit the hours protestors can stay out on the streets. And powers to remove vehicles from blocking parliament.

We are not talking about rubber bullets, tear gas or shoot to kill. Although I would be tempted.

 

[aguero93:20]

Having read about King and been a youngster in that period I am not sure what you are alluding to. When others saw violence as the only answer to brutality and racism - (murder) he always advocated the peaceful approach.

and half a century of trying his way have seen the brutality and racism go nowhere and people are leaning back towards violent means. His way couldn't work without meaningful change at all levels of society and he failed to create an environment where that could be achieved.

 

[melrose40yarder]

and half a century of trying his way have seen the brutality and racism go nowhere and people are leaning back towards violent means. His way couldn't work without meaningful change at all levels of society and he failed to create an environment where that could be achieved.

Most protesters go about it the right way.They are as outragedby the violence as most right minded people are.However the rent a mob that turn up at all these protests need to be dealt with,how we do it im not sure as treating them like humans or animals would not work.There has to be consequences of action god knows what in this do gooder everyone has rights society.

 

[Blue Mist]

and half a century of trying his way have seen the brutality and racism go nowhere and people are leaning back towards violent means. His way couldn't work without meaningful change at all levels of society and he failed to create an environment where that could be achieved.

No, sorry I have to disagree, violence only makes the people that are in power stronger.
As an example, Paul Simon achieved far more for black South Africans than any politician. He did it through music and engaging with the very people apartheid wanted to oppress and yet it was the opposite of what politicians were advocating.

 

[aguero93:20]

No, sorry I have to disagree, violence only makes the people that are in power stronger.
As an example, Paul Simon achieved far more for black South Africans than any politician. He did it through music and engaging with the very people apartheid wanted to oppress and yet it was the opposite of what politicians were advocating.

South Africa had meaningful change at all levels, even then as a country it's still suffering horrendously with racial violence.

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

The "controversial" new laws mate, include such radical ideas as being able to limit the hours protestors can stay out on the streets. And powers to remove vehicles from blocking parliament.

We are not talking about rubber bullets, tear gas or shoot to kill. Although I would be tempted.

Ya know what's a good way of limiting the hours protestor can stay out?

Internment.

No way that'll fail.

 

[lazerblue]

theres only one way to stop the protests, vote labour, imagine if they won the next election, the fuckers wouldn't know what to protest about, it'd be utopia

 

[Rascal]

theres only one way to stop the protests, vote labour, imagine if they won the next election, the fuckers wouldn't know what to protest about, it'd be utopia

If Labour were introducing this bill, I would be encouraging protest.

Denial of democratic right to protest is no utopia.

 

[Rascal]

this do gooder everyone has rights society.

You want a society were people don't have rights or a society were only a select few have rights.