I didn't say don't bother, it's vitally important that people Should make a stand when they feel they are being discriminated against whatever the subject.yeah you are right lets not bother. Why are women allowed to vote? Why are there Trades Unions? Why are there equality laws and measures that were passed - just red tape that gets in the way - get rid of it all that way we can become a province of the PRC and have done with it
Mods, mods - tell him! Don't worry musty, I'm maintaining my annoying stance in most other political threads on here. Not gone full libtard on you yet ;-)Wimp
The only evidence of this is from the media, who push their own or the Governments narrative.The problem with protests is that for every person there genuinely championing the cause, there's another who is there because its a chance to get involved in a bit of unrest and incite trouble.
That's essentially what the government/establishment want though, they love that trouble makers turn up as it gives them all the ammunition they need to do whatever they want, while completely destroying all purpose to the protest. If trouble makers don't turn up, they are happy to incite the protesters in an attempt to get it to kick off, as a peaceful protest is a nightmare for them, they need a reason to break it up.The problem with protests is that for every person there genuinely championing the cause, there's another who is there because its a chance to get involved in a bit of unrest and incite trouble.
Sadly, when they're all mixed in together it becomes a mishmash of both and there no way of separating the two.
This just leads to the actual problem being ptotested getting lost in the noise and a loss off sympathy from the general public, regardless of the seriousness of the original complaint.
Its a fair point and I was being a bit too flippant on a very important subject. No, I've never protested, I find myself extremely fortunate to never have had reason to.The only evidence of this is from the media, who push their own or the Governments narrative.
Its Trumpian, blaming subversive's. You are claiming 50% of any protest march is made of up of people intent on violence. Have you ever been on a protest march?
I am sure if they were around when Peterloo happened ANTIFA, BLM and lefties in general would be blamed.
I do think there is something different going on with large protests in the capital now. Both the segment (I won't claim any % as I don't know) of anti-establishment that seem willing to attach themselves to any convenient passing cause, and an opposing rw element that soon turn up looking for trouble. I'm not sure when this started, nothing like this with stop the war, even most of the Brexit stuff was mostly civilised albeit bitterly divided.The only evidence of this is from the media, who push their own or the Governments narrative.
Its Trumpian, blaming subversive's. You are claiming 50% of any protest march is made of up of people intent on violence. Have you ever been on a protest march?
I am sure if they were around when Peterloo happened ANTIFA, BLM and lefties in general would be blamed.
And what some of us were against this time last year but all shot down...In the context of the pandemic these things are fine as temporary measures. It's that they are rescinded afterwards that matters.
I have been on marches, my first was a CND march from Stockport to Town, aged about12, i went on my own.Its a fair point and I was being a bit too flippant on a very important subject. No, I've never protested, I find myself extremely fortunate to never have had reason to.
That may well be the case that there is an element of trouble causers.I do think there is something different going on with large protests in the capital now. Both the segment (I won't claim any % as I don't know) of anti-establishment that seem willing to attach themselves to any convenient passing cause, and an opposing rw element that soon turn up looking for trouble. I'm not sure when this started, nothing like this with stop the war, even most of the Brexit stuff was mostly civilised albeit bitterly divided.