The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Cheetham Hill, Salford and North Manchester will feature in the next few episodes

Salford's full of villains inc the apparatchiks at the BBC. I shall be interested to see how far down the nick Blackley, Crumpsall 'n Apper'ay have gone. Moston improved when MES buggered off to Boston.

 

[dobingsdobber]

The abuse of the right to silence is a criminals charter.
People like that big twat should be shackled throughout/and or tasered when threatening Officers.
Used to be plenty of 6ft 5" ex Rugby/military male cops to deal with these scum , the high level of senior women police officers have limitations in front line enforcement.
I really wouldn't have a problem if the police just shot these scum on arrest.

The law should change so that the "no comment" response default is interpreted as "yes"

 

[dobingsdobber]

After watching that it wont shock you to know that I havent had chance. I went to work on Saturday afternoon and its not an exaggeration to say I came home properly at 7.30pm tonight. Ive grabbed a couple of hours kip and changed my shirt and cleaned my teeth here and there but its been mental. Ive currently got 2 people in comas, one 37 yr old bloke from a vicious assault on Sat night and one 21yr old girl from a drugs overdose this morning. In the middle of that Ive had to manage half of the uniform staff that would help do shit be taken away because a gypsy wedding went pop and 12 were arrested for possessing guns, swords and machetes while 6 are in hospital, one with a wound from a sword that has exposed his spine. No shit.

Wally,my family and myself are in your debt for the work you do.

 

[Midlands Blue]

I noticed the name Carlos Buller. Is he a descendant of the Withington Bullers of the late 60s/early 70s?

Certainly looked like them. Used to see the Bullers around Rusholme in the 60's/70's and they were definitely ones to keep out of the way of.

 

[stonerblue]

After watching that it wont shock you to know that I havent had chance. I went to work on Saturday afternoon and its not an exaggeration to say I came home properly at 7.30pm tonight. Ive grabbed a couple of hours kip and changed my shirt and cleaned my teeth here and there but its been mental. Ive currently got 2 people in comas, one 37 yr old bloke from a vicious assault on Sat night and one 21yr old girl from a drugs overdose this morning. In the middle of that Ive had to manage half of the uniform staff that would help do shit be taken away because a gypsy wedding went pop and 12 were arrested for possessing guns, swords and machetes while 6 are in hospital, one with a wound from a sword that has exposed his spine. No shit.

fuckin hell Wally. No wonder you need a dog.

 

[DWIFF]

Watching it now. That Paris bostock fella is terrifying

Anyone think he looked like Little Richard?

 

[LongsightM13]

After watching that first episode, I’m happy to take my chances in Chicago, with my own guns! Coincidentally, I spent a very nice afternoon at the range today, putting holes in targets from 7 meters. Needless to say, the paper didn’t survive! ;-)

The episode was nothing more than bullies committing extreme violence and torture for money. The threatening behavior of the primary perp while at the Police Station would have been fun to watch in an American station or jail. If you mess with the bull, you get the horns!

I noticed the name Carlos Buller. Is he a descendant of the Withington Bullers of the late 60s/early 70s?

Scratch the grey surface of Manchester and you see how badly it has gone to shit! Reminds me why I am always happy to get off the plane when I land back in the States! If I could find a nice cottage in the Peak or Lake Districts, maybe, but nearly everything I see in the Lakes requires some local residency bullshit! Ah, freedom!

Yep, Fonso’s brother. Carlos Buller was on an episode of Come Dine With Me which ended up landing him in trouble previously

Come Dine With Me contestant's pub attack caught on CCTV

Carlos Buller was caught on CCTV hitting Anthony Hargreaves in a pub brawl, but police were unable to identify him. But he was caught after apparently being spotted taking part as a contestant on the hit Channel 4 cookery show. Interior designer Buller, 45, was arrested on suspicion of assault...

www.google.co.uk

 

[paulchapo]

Certainly looked like them. Used to see the Bullers around Rusholme in the 60's/70's and they were definitely ones to keep out of the way of.

It was a well known name around Wythenshawe in the 70/80's, probably slightly before that. One was called Alfonso. A few years ago I was watching an episode of come dine with me based in Manchester and there was a Buller on it whose age would probably fit the criteria but he was now some kind of actor/luvvie type. I often wonder if it was him, it was quite a contrast if it was lol.

Edited, I have just seen the post by @LongsightM13 which confirms it. Carlos and Alfonso Buller, two brothers. I was gobsmacked at the change in him in the TV programme, but I guess the old life still bubbles below the surface judging by the attack.

 

[LongsightM13]

It was a well known name around Wythenshawe in the 70/80's, probably slightly before that. One was called Alfonso. A few years ago I was watching an episode of come dine with me based in Manchester and there was an Buller on it whose age would probably fit the criteria but he was now some kind of actor/luvvie type. I often wonder if it was him, it was quite a contrast if it was lol.

Brother. Fonso was the one used to have the long dreads, who ran the MVITA nights at the Midland on Burton Road and was on stage at the end of the Mondays gig at GMEX. Lives down Cornwall way now I think. Carlos is a angry, hissy little queen who buys and sells furniture

 

[paulchapo]

Anyone think he looked like Little Richard?

Erm yes but a bigger version lol.

 

[Bluearmy]

And the loony right

Eh..?? Labour voted against longer prison sentences for people who assault emergency service workers recently

 

[paulchapo]

Brother. Fonso was the one used to have the long dreads, who ran the MVITA nights at the Midland on Burton Road and was on stage at the end of the Mondays gig at GMEX. Lives down Cornwall way now I think. Carlos is a angry, hissy little queen who buys and sells furniture

Yes he lives in Falmouth now I think.

 

[somapop]

Yep, Fonso’s brother. Carlos Buller was on an episode of Come Dine With Me which ended up landing him in trouble previously

Come Dine With Me contestant's pub attack caught on CCTV

Carlos Buller was caught on CCTV hitting Anthony Hargreaves in a pub brawl, but police were unable to identify him. But he was caught after apparently being spotted taking part as a contestant on the hit Channel 4 cookery show. Interior designer Buller, 45, was arrested on suspicion of assault...

www.google.co.uk

Brother. Fonso was the one used to have the long dreads, who ran the MVITA nights at the Midland on Burton Road and was on stage at the end of the Mondays gig at GMEX. Lives down Cornwall way now I think. Carlos is a angry, hissy little queen who buys and sells furniture

Ahh...the Fonso posted on here a month or so back in the Cornwall thread.

Wonder what his story was?

I used to see the guy mentioned above (Carlos?) around Withington a lot - someone I knew 'knew of him'.
Knew he had done a bit of TV but otherwise knew nothing about him.
He looked pretty harmless and slightly camp if I recall in all fairness....

Is this Paris guy a nephew/son?||

Edit - different surname...was Buller the guy arrested in his home?

 

[bada bing]

Hearing a young kid of maybe 5 or 6 saying " he had a revolver, it was a six shooter" and " is daddy gonna die" was an eye opener.

 

[paulchapo]

Hearing a young kid of maybe 5 or 6 saying " he had a revolver, it was a six shooter" and " is daddy gonna die" was an eye opener.

Yes very knowledgeable already at such a young age.

Almost every single violent criminal had an abusive childhood. I don't just mean sexual abuse but mental and physical too. Or they grew up in a household like this poor child where his dad was a drug dealer with all the pitfalls and violence that comes with it.

 

[somapop]

Yes very knowledgeable already at such a young age.

Almost every single violent criminal had an abusive childhood. I don't just mean sexual abuse but mental and physical too. Or they grew up in a household like this poor child where his dad was a drug dealer with all the pitfalls and violence that comes with it.

...maybe why many get that 'baby faced killer' tag. The 'pasty' as referred to on here looked like someone who could be likeable, helpful etc...
You can imagine what their life may have been like if they'd gone down a different path with a decent upbringing.

 

[LongsightM13]

Ahh...the Fonso posted on here a month or so back in the Cornwall thread.

Wonder what his story was?

I used to see the guy mentioned above (Carlos?) around Withington a lot - someone I knew 'knew of him'.
Knew he had done a bit of TV but otherwise knew nothing about him.
He looked pretty harmless and slightly camp if I recall in all fairness....

Is this Paris guy a nephew/son?||

Edit - different surname...was Buller the guy arrested in his home?

The Carlos Buller in the show was from a younger generation, one of the sons/nephews/cousins. Fonso and Carlos senior etc are in their 50s/early 60s now

 

[DTKOAG]

After watching that first episode, I’m happy to take my chances in Chicago, with my own guns! Coincidentally, I spent a very nice afternoon at the range today, putting holes in targets from 7 meters. Needless to say, the paper didn’t survive! ;-)

The episode was nothing more than bullies committing extreme violence and torture for money. The threatening behavior of the primary perp while at the Police Station would have been fun to watch in an American station or jail. If you mess with the bull, you get the horns!

I noticed the name Carlos Buller. Is he a descendant of the Withington Bullers of the late 60s/early 70s?

Scratch the grey surface of Manchester and you see how badly it has gone to shit! Reminds me why I am always happy to get off the plane when I land back in the States! If I could find a nice cottage in the Peak or Lake Districts, maybe, but nearly everything I see in the Lakes requires some local residency bullshit! Ah, freedom!

Yeah right...

Chicago shootings: 21 shot, 4 fatally, in weekend violence across city

Four people were killed and at least 17 others have been wounded in shootings across Chicago so far this weekend, including a 10-year-old boy who was shot Friday in East Garfield Park on the West Side.

abc7chicago.com

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Eh..?? Labour voted against longer prison sentences for people who assault emergency service workers recently

You only have to look at the matches over the last 12 months to see there loons of a wide variety of political persuasions

 

[nellyonthewing]

The right to silence is an American thing, isn't it? It's been a long time since I watched The Bill, but ours is "it may harm your defence if you don't mention when questioned something you may later rely on in court" which suggests that sitting there in silence isn't necessarily

The law should change so that the "no comment" response default is interpreted as "yes"

If they amended the law so that a 'No Comment' made while with their legal representative would be deemed to be a refusal to co-operate with the Police and would be taken into consideration in sentencing. e,g 18 months becomes 3 years.