Coronavirus (2021) thread

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KPXBLN said:
I dunno if this is any consolation, but I don't get the impression people in Germany are laughing at the UK. They're pissed off - maybe rightly, I don't know enough of the details - about perceived 'hoarding' of vaccine supplies, but mostly people are just livid with the car crash way the pandemic is being handled here. Vaccinations are still at around just 200-250k a day (at which rate it would take over a year to vaccinate the c80 million population) and are not going up. Around 40% of the AZ vaccine doses they've received so far have not been used.
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That is shocking. BBC Reporter in Brussels said similar, that people she spoke to didnt want to take vaccines away from the UK. They wanted their own governments to sort out what they see as their mess. The misinformation from some of their leaders has resulted in widespread mistrust in the AZ vaccine and people not taking it up. Its been utterly scandalous and unsurprisingly it would seem the electorate in Europe are not stupid they know who to blame for this mess and it isnt the UK or AZ.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Sad to hear about the problems with vaccinations in Germany. I’ve heard from a mate in the Netherlands and he is frustrated that there are 700k AZ / Oxford doses that the authorities won’t allow to be used.
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It's a fucking joke. I'm in my 30s so probably fairly 'safe' as far as it goes but really fed up of ordinary life being on hold. It would be nice to go to a bar at some point this year... (And for my friends who work in / run bars, it would be nice to have a living.)
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
That is shocking. BBC Reporter in Brussels said similar, that people she spoke to didnt want to take vaccines away from the UK. They wanted their own governments to sort out what they see as their mess. The misinformation from some of their leaders has resulted in widespread mistrust in the AZ vaccine and people not taking it up. Its been utterly scandalous and unsurprisingly it would seem the electorate in Europe are not stupid they know who to blame for this mess and it isnt the UK or AZ.
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Yeh, Merkel / CDU really patted themselves on the back after the first wave and then just went to sleep. I won't bore you with the details but their response to a rapidly increasing wave was to announce an extra hard 5 day lockdown over easter weekend on tuesday morning (as if that would achieve anything), which Merkel promptly rescinded the following day.
 
Greater Manchester summary:

Up by 71 to 412. Which unfortunately is big enough chunk of the 146 rise in the NW to increase the % of the NW to 55.1%.

However, that 412 is down week to week from 457 and 543 the past two Thursdays.

As you will expect most places in GM up a bit day to day bit not week to week:=


Manchester in top spot stays at 80 and down slightly on 85 last week. So pretty static.

Bolton second at 50 and still running bit high - up from 44 but down on last week by 17. So OK day.

Oldham clocks up 48 in third - double yesterday and up 12 on last week. Had the worst day in GM today

Wigan has 47 cases - up 9 but down slightly week to week so not a problem for its Pop.

Stockport next at 42 is up 10 and also up 7 on last week so will lose some Pop score ground today too

Rochdale has 35 down 5 day to day and 2 week to week,

Salford next on 34 up 10 in day but down 20 week to week so better than it looks and will gain Pop advantage

Tameside 31 up 5 on yesterday but down 15 week on week so really good for its weekly Pop Score.

Bury second best on 24 - up 6 day to day but down 2 week to week so pretty static.

And Trafford again best score at 21 - though up 4 on day and just 1 week to week. So no real damage.



All in all just Oldham and Stockport did not have good days today and took a Weekly Pop Score hit.

Will post an up to date Weekly Pop Score table later.
 
SWP's back said:
Have you received a vaccine jab yet?

I’ve got a colleague who had long covid for 4 months but his first jab more or less cleared it up.
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I haven't yet mate.
I know a fair few that have (and younger than me too).
I'm not hugely ill with long Covid (but there's no chance I could carry out a physical job in this state).
Bearing in mind this time last year (give or take a few weeks) I'd be running, doing pull ups, press ups, cross fit classes....I now a couple of bags of shopping up the stairs would take its toll....).

I'm hoping the jab knocks it out of me too, but not guaranteed.
 
England hospital news

Better news here continues

Falls across the board - total drop of 242 to 3763 patients.

Ventilators down 47 today to just 566.

Will post a full regional and UK breakdown later as usual.

But the NW is still dropping only slowly. By 30 to 693 patients and just another 1 ventilator to 82. Back to where it was 4 days ago after a rise over the weekend.

At least back on that slow downward track.

London and the South East had the biggest drops in paients and ventilatirs today.
 
KPXBLN said:
What are these figures? Cases per X population? What's the X?
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No X

Same as every night.

The actual number of cases reported by each region that make up the England total of the 6397 UK cases reported today.

The numbers for the other nations are posted earlier today around 12 - 3 pm in here when these are released each day.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Danish rationale direct from the horse's mouth.

www.sst.dk

The decision to put vaccination with the COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca on hold is extended for another three weeks

The Danish Health Authority’s decision to pause the COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca remains in effect because the assessment of the use of the vaccine in the Danish vaccination programme against COVID-19 is still ongoing.
www.sst.dk www.sst.dk

Perhaps some of the context to this is that Denmark has a death rate ~5x lower than ours across the whole pandemic and even today has a death rate 5x lower than ours - they're not watching their elderly folk die.

So the risk of side effects might be seen as relatively more important than COVID deaths, which they have very well under control without extra vaccines.

Again, not saying they are right, but trying to understand why they might take a different stance.
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Hasn't the UK given the vaccine manufacturers a free pass on payouts for side effects? Not sure that's true in other countries, so one has to wonder. Sweden has approved AZ for over 65s today, balancing the risk.
 
blueish swede said:
Hasn't the UK given the vaccine manufacturers a free pass on payouts for side effects? Not sure that's true in other countries, so one has to wonder.
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Dunno. There was talk of this, and also talk of negotiations on price vs liability (why would AZ take on huge liability without profit; completely the opposite for Moderna who are raking it in). I think there's a general fund in the UK for all vaccine related injuries too? No idea how it all landed.
 
HOSPITAL DATA


Headline:

The steady fall goes on. UK patients fall into the mid 4000s, England in the 3000s. UK ventilators drop below 700 - down over 3400 in 9 weeks. And England now under 600. Every region down on patients and only Yorkshire up on ventilators. Though the North West is still in a sluggish fall at the moment - especially with ventilators seeming to have hit a stall this week. And especially in comparison with the big fall in both by the South East today

UK total:


Patients 4601 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 34, 647 in 66 days) :- lowest since 10 October

Ventilators 633 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3444 in 60 days) : lowest since 18 October


England only:-

ADMISSIONS:-

295 Covid admissions (21 March) - following 294, 279, 287, 283, 351, 343, 364 in the week before.


PATIENTS:-

Patients down 242 in day to 3763 v 5083 last week :- lowest since 11 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 30, 573 in 66 days)

Ventilators: Down in day 47 to 566 v 797 last week :- lowest since 21 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3170 in 60 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week


East down 17 to 345 v 466 // down 8 to 58 v 81

London down 29 to 811 v 1023 // down 21 to 169 v 260

Midlands down 53 to 773 v 1100 // down 5 to 126 v 176

NE & Yorks down 21 to 616 v 838 // up 2 to 84 v 100

North West down 30 to 693 v 847 // down 1 to 82 v 90

South East down 84 to 377 v 618 // down 13 to 24 v 67

South West down 8 to 148 v 191 // down 1 to 23 v 23
 
GM Weekly Pop Scores after today:~

Borough / Score Today / Score 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop scores going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop Score is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.



Tameside 110 / 123 / down 13 Testing positive 7.9%

Rochdale 109 / 104 / UP 5 Testing positive 9.3%

Oldham 108 / 97 UP 11 Testing positive 9.5%

Bolton 105 / 101/ UP 4 Testing positive 8.8%

Wigan 101 / 101 / LEVEL Testing positive 8.6%

Manchester 91 / 94 / down 3 Testing positive 9.3%

Salford 88 / 116 / down 28 Testing positive 8.8%

Bury 87/ 77 UP 10 Testing positive 8.9%

Stockport 79 / 85 / down 6 Testing positive 7.0%

Trafford 46 / 43 / UP 3 Testing positive 6.8%


Weekly cases: Trafford 114,

Others Bolton 302, Bury 166, Manchester 504, Oldham 266, Rochdale 244, Salford 228, Stockport 232, Tameside 249, Wigan 329
 
blueish swede said:
Hasn't the UK given the vaccine manufacturers a free pass on payouts for side effects? Not sure that's true in other countries, so one has to wonder. Sweden has approved AZ for over 65s today, balancing the risk.
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Why does one have to wonder? The reason the Government gave those assurances was to get the development of the vaccines started as quickly as possible by giving extra confidence to investors and vaccine developers. That’s also partly why the AZ / Oxford vaccine is offered on a not for profit basis and is the mainstay of the global vaccine fund.
 
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