Coronavirus (2021) thread

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73 England hospital deaths:

By region: 17 Midlands, 16 North West, 13 NE & Yorkshire, 10 East. 8 South East, 5 London, 4 South West

Most in any trust - Manchester 6.

2 of the 73 were from 2020 - one from March 2020!

By age:

20 - 39 (1) 1.4%

40 - 59 (7) 9.6%

60 - 79 (33) 45.2%

80 PLUS (32) 43.8%
 
Scotland data:

10 deaths - was 7 last week

701 cases - was 624 last week

2.4% positivity - was 2.7% last week

310 patients - down 11 on day - was 405 last week

32 ventilated - up 1 on day - was 38 last week.


The ventilated icu data has been rising now for a few days and cases are still a bit high and the deaths too up a bit week to week today. But these were down a lot yesterday. Over the 48 hrs it is 13 this week versus 19 last - so it is easy to be fooled from just looking at isolated numbers.
 
Scotland Vaccination update:

2, 285, 711 first doses given - 36, 099 today - was 34, 940 yesterday & 41, 184 last week

263, 236 second doses given - 13, 979 today - was 13. 581 yesterday & 10, 221 last week
 
Healdplace said:
Scotland data:

10 deaths - was 7 last week

701 cases - was 624 last week

2.4% positivity - was 2.7% last week

310 patients - down 11 on day - was 405 last week

32 ventilated - up 1 on day - was 38 last week.


The ventilated icu data has been rising now for a few days and cases are still a bit high and the deaths too up a bit week to week today. But these were down a lot yesterday. Over the 48 hrs it is 13 this week versus 19 last - so it is easy to be fooled from just looking at isolated numbers.
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I know it's not the most important figure in itself but those case numbers are really stubbornly high. In contrast to Wales and Northern Ireland, Scotland seems to be on trend with ROI. I wonder why there's such a difference.
 
Northern Ireland data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

183 cases - was 169 last week

6.3% positivity - was 9.2% last week

Weekly cases total 1054 - was 1014 yesterday & 1152 last week

6 care home outbreaks - was 9 yesterday & 12 last week

153 patients - down 1 in day - was 167 last week

10 ventilated - down 2 - was 14 last week
 
ayrshire_blue said:
I know it's not the most important figure in itself but those case numbers are really stubbornly high. In contrast to Wales and Northern Ireland, Scotland seems to be on trend with ROI. I wonder why there's such a difference.
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I am sure it is school testing. It is up a tad but really not risen hugely as the positivity number as low as I can recall shows.

Down week to week despite more cases.

Cases everywhere tend to go up as the mid week goes along and then falls over the weekend.

Scotland's recent Thursdays have been:

769 v 500 v 591 v 624 v 701

This takes in the school return and they have not got back to where we were before that started.

Yes it is up but with many more tests week by week and so a falling positivity

That 769 cases was at 3.7% positivity v today's 2.4%
 
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Total cases with England to come :- is 1111

It was 1090 last week then 1009 wk before then 930 then 1362

So yes the cases have trended up.

It is possible we might touch 6000 cases in UK today if England keeps pace.

But Zoe app being constantly down by 1000 or so with their total people with Covid falling every day suggests this might be an artificially elevated number driven by the very high levels of school testing.
 
Really now we are comparing apples and oranges.

When doing moderate testing we were mostly finding symptomatic cases now we are so busy testing we are finding many many cases where the person has no idea. Not to mention probably more false positives.

It is a truer picture but case numbers per se are only important to isolate and stop spread.

They have limited impact on the hospital and death numbers. If it is mostly unvaccinated, younger people testing positive as it is.

Hence why cases really are not at present a real indicator of where we are going and the hospital data is much more so.

As there will be Covid cases long into the future and at some point we will have to stop counting them or at least reporting them daily unless there is good reason to do so as people have become accustomed to seeing them as the gude to where we are headed.

And really they are not now to a bigger degree than most people realise.
 
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As a for instance - the Northern Ireland cases today were 183, up from 139 yesterday and 169 last week.

BUT the positivity rating today was lower than both those two lower case numbers as way more testing today.

And equally importantly when you look at the age ranges of those testing positive - whilst the number of the 7 day total has gone UP by 40 today the key thing is that the age bands have changed too.

There were 130 of 1014 people over 60 who tested positive yesterday

Today there are 40 more cases added to the rolling total but the number over 60 FELL to 127 and the younger ages (under 30) rose day to day.

If the cases in the older more at risk groups are falling really in terms of the course of the pandemic that is the key not the up or down day to day cases.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Some unbelievable stats in this thread if you scroll down. The ones I particularly liked showed the percentage in each of the nine priority groups who have had at least one vaccination dose.

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Brilliant figures.

I particularly love the fact than a significant number of 75-79 year olds have apparently come out of hiding to get vaccinated.

Who are they? Why were they previously incognito? Enquiring minds want answers.
 
Healdplace said:
As a for instance - the Northern Ireland cases today were 183, up from 139 yesterday and 169 last week.

BUT the positivity rating today was lower than both those two lower case numbers as way more testing today.

And equally importantly when you look at the age ranges of those testing positive - whilst the number of the 7 day total has gone UP by 40 today the key thing is that the age bands have changed too.

There were 130 of 1014 people over 60 who tested positive yesterday

Today there are 40 more cases added to the rolling total but the number over 60 FELL to 127 and the younger ages (under 30) rose day to day.

If the cases in the older more at risk groups are falling really in terms of the course of the pandemic that is the key not the up or down day to day cases.
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Probably school children and work tests then?
 
PHE has announced they think by end of February vaccinations had saved 6100 lives in England.

5900 over 80 and the other 200 aged 70 - 79.

Half of them were from the vaccine denied to lots of people in Europe and the US because it is not safe enough to save those lives.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Some unbelievable stats in this thread if you scroll down. The ones I particularly liked showed the percentage in each of the nine priority groups who have had at least one vaccination dose.

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Terrific take up. Obviously they’re still doing 50-54 year olds so that percentage will undoubtedly go up in the next week or two.
 
See Gundogen talking about how ill with it he was earlier. Says like no flu he has ever had. Also how lonely he has been at times in lockdown. Seems an absolutely genuine bloke him and makes what a great season he has had even more of an achievement. Glad he plays for us! sorry to talk football!
 
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On the admissions of over 85s. Not quite following why it is odd. I am probably missing something simple as if it is baffling you then it is obviously for real.

Firstly, raw numbers are now very low. There are 4005 in England in hospital with Covid as of yesterday. So any % that who is over 85 is likely less than were dying every day in January. When there were nine times as many.

And inevitably there will now be more ability to try to save older patients as resources are less stretched - 600 on ventilators instead of 4000 from 9 weeks ago. - who at that age are all but certain to have other significant health issues that Covid is impacting - who in the past were likely too resource heavy if the choice was to use 50% of your resource saving one 90 year old or the same resources to save half a dozen 75 year olds.

Grim choices like that were made daily for months and are probably now less often needed as numbers are low and new treatment methods give hope even to the once hopeless who may well have just not been put through the trauma but now for all these reasons they can try to save.

Was watching on Sky 1 last night the excellent drama series set in a hospital in San Jose - The Good Doctor - starring Freddie HIghmore as an autistic but brilliant doctor. The first two episodes of the new series were all about how they battled Covid and they showed well the choices they had to make regardless of age and the priorities they had to adopt. And the decisions about who to put on ventilators.

From the documentaries I have seen it was like this all over the world for real- from China to Italy to the UK.
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I’d like the data published on admissions of un vaccinated people above 50. I believe it must be reasonably high and might kick a few butts into the centres.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
There were still very substantial restrictions through the summer, if not called a lockdown, and we had R>1, from a low level of cases, direct from the point where the last restrictions were lifted. Current roadmap has all restrictions lifted June 21st, so very different to last summer. Just how seasonal COVID is still seems to be very unclear. "Somewhat"



I think the vaccine supply is still consistent with the original plan, just no acceleration. Could be wrong.
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This simply isn't correct. People admitted to hospital continued to decline until the end of August last year, despite restrictions being lifted throughout May, June and July.
 
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