Rangers thread 2020/21

bennyboy said:
Captain though.
Never thought as the clubs captain that it was not a good idea.
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I guess it came from higher up but I do take your point he could’ve done something about it.

I’ve listened to Carragher speak about it and try to make sense of it. He was saying the culture in football is automatically supporting your team mate even if they’re in the wrong.

Even the past 5 years, education on equality issues has improved quite a lot. I know it was wrong at the time but now there seems to be much more awareness surrounding racial equality. I’d even say over the past year I’ve become much more educated myself.

I’d like to think if it did happen today a Gerrard type captain would call it out as a ridiculous idea. Which it certainly was.
 
Squidward said:
I guess it came from higher up but I do take your point he could’ve done something about it.

I’ve listened to Carragher speak about it and try to make sense of it. He was saying the culture in football is automatically supporting your team mate even if they’re in the wrong.

Even the past 5 years, education on equality issues has improved quite a lot. I know it was wrong at the time but now there seems to be much more awareness surrounding racial equality. I’d even say over the past year I’ve become much more educated myself.

I’d like to think if it did happen today a Gerrard type captain would call it out as a ridiculous idea. Which it certainly was.
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Yep. You can be wrong in the past, like you say, it's all about education, is that not the whole point in what's trying to happen, to change people's views, to educate, to point out where we are wrong & have went wrong before?

For instance, the Anton Ferdinand documentary. I can understand Terry not appearing as it could easily have been edited as an ambush on him, but wouldn't it have been good if he had come out with his side, apologise, say how comments he made were wrong, he needed more education & understanding of the impact etc. Think he would have gained a lot more respect back in that case.
 
Squidward said:
Rangers had a physically and mentally draining Thursday night against top opposition.

Celtic did have a weeks rest and still tired towards the end of the match.

I actually felt as if Rangers were gonna nick it in the last 20.

Happy with the draw anyway. Would love to go the league season unbeaten and finish it off with the Scottish Cup. Would me a major success.

Then it’s full focus on the Champions League qualifiers. Two rounds to negotiate; seeded in Round 3 and then unseeded in the play-offs. If Gerrard manages to pull that off it will be nothing short of sensational when you think of where Rangers were 4 years ago.
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I mentioned this excuse would be used. I went on to remind people that when we got through to the UEFA Final, we played Rangers on the Saturday at Ibrox and beat them. That was quite draining. Isn't it the truth that as shite we have been you aren't that much better? The last two games would suggest it.
 
Magicpole said:
I mentioned this excuse would be used. I went on to remind people that when we got through to the UEFA Final, we played Rangers on the Saturday at Ibrox and beat them. That was quite draining. Isn't it the truth that as shite we have been you aren't that much better? The last two games would suggest it.
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Don't think there is a big gap in the teams. You still have some very good players, Ajer, Turnbull, Mcgregor, Christie, Edouard, Elyounoussi etc. Your problem is that you can't be trusted to get any run of decent results, & we are the opposite this season. And now your team will be ripped apart.
 
GunnerGer said:
Don't think there is a big gap in the teams. You still have some very good players, Ajer, Turnbull, Mcgregor, Christie, Edouard, Elyounoussi etc. Your problem is that you can't be trusted to get any run of decent results, & we are the opposite this season. And now your team will be ripped apart.
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Spot on. We are in for massive change, another example of our boards complacency. Christie Eduoard and Ajer will be off. Ely we don't know yet and will depend on whoever comes in. I have been predicting this long before King had a go. I have zero belief in our board, they need to throw out Lawells go cheap and hope strategy. Also our recruitment team hellbent on signing duds needs to be thrown out. We need to wait and see. I'm.glad King has been noising them up. That should rile them. It should or they aren't fit for purpose.
 
Magicpole said:
Spot on. We are in for massive change, another example of our boards complacency. Christie Eduoard and Ajer will be off. Ely we don't know yet and will depend on whoever comes in. I have been predicting this long before King had a go. I have zero belief in our board, they need to throw out Lawells go cheap and hope strategy. Also our recruitment team hellbent on signing duds needs to be thrown out. We need to wait and see. I'm.glad King has been noising them up. That should rile them. It should or they aren't fit for purpose.
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Any update on the manager search? Brown likely to go to Aberdeen with Glass?
 
bennyboy said:
Time flies right enough.
The Scottish Cup semi v Hearts in 2006 must have been his last big game for Hibs.
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Sounds about right Benny. Rangers fans never forgave him for choosing us over them. I remember Derek Johnstone rubbishing our interest on Clyde and proclaiming Broony would be a brilliant signing and be announced the same week for Rangers. :) when he signed he became shite. Well, that's just shite. It's like fancying a woman when young who you find out doesn't fancy you and she suddenly becomes a dog. No, she's not a dog, she just had a better offer.
 
Magicpole said:
Sounds about right Benny. Rangers fans never forgave him for choosing us over them. I remember Derek Johnstone rubbishing our interest on Clyde and proclaiming Broony would be a brilliant signing and be announced the same week for Rangers. :) when he signed he became shite. Well, that's just shite. It's like fancying a woman when young who you find out doesn't fancy you and she suddenly becomes a dog. No, she's not a dog, she just had a better offer.
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I was never his greatest fan but I will give him credit for being one of the few ex Hibs players that played at that time fulfilling his potential.
Top of my head Kevin Thomson being the other.
 
bennyboy said:
I was never his greatest fan but I will give him credit for being one of the few ex Hibs players that played at that time fulfilling his potential.
Top of my head Kevin Thomson being the other.
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Broony is a guy who if he plays for you you love, if against, you hate.
 
Magicpole said:
Sounds about right Benny. Rangers fans never forgave him for choosing us over them. I remember Derek Johnstone rubbishing our interest on Clyde and proclaiming Broony would be a brilliant signing and be announced the same week for Rangers. :) when he signed he became shite. Well, that's just shite. It's like fancying a woman when young who you find out doesn't fancy you and she suddenly becomes a dog. No, she's not a dog, she just had a better offer.
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He clearly made the right choice given what happened to Rangers in 2012. I'm not sure what difference he'd have made at Rangers mind you.

Rangers won 3 out of the 4 titles the years after he signed & the title Celtic won was the year Rangers won both domestic cups & were in the Europa League final & lost the league at the end having to play 5 games in 10 days. Actually, Rangers won 2 of the 3 domestic trophies each of Brown's first 4 seasons.

Rangers entered administration in Feb 2012 & of course the the rest is history, so he would have had to have left then anyway. He enjoyed the dominance Celtic had of Scottish football with Rangers starting from the bottom up.
 
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Could someone enlighten me please ? Always thought there was a City Rangers, United Celtic following. Is there a reason behind this or am I wrong ? Seem to remember Rangers fans in the Kippax. Was it do do with us playing at home on opposite days, or a religious issue ? Intrigued.
 
Berts Neck said:
Could someone enlighten me please ? Always thought there was a City Rangers, United Celtic following. Is there a reason behind this or am I wrong ? Seem to remember Rangers fans in the Kippax. Was it do do with us playing at home on opposite days, or a religious issue ? Intrigued.
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I think there's a notion that under Busby, United were a Catholic club. They've always had a relationship with Celtic and when players have had testimonials (Brian McClair, Ryan Giggs, Bryan Robson, Roy Keane, Mark Hughes etc), they've invited Celtic down to swell the attendance. My brother considers himself United first and Celtic second - although he's also a Wigan rugby fan despite being born at Hope Hospital over the road from Salford's old ground so he may be simply a glory hunter.

I believe, and I may be wrong, that this meant that City and Rangers were seen as "friendly" although I never heard of any matches between the two.

I met a group of Rangers fans in the late 90's at Reading away and went to see Rangers with them at Ibrox and City away at Walsall with them.

I know a lot of City fans have no time for either club but I have to say that I was made extremely welcome in Glasgow once people knew I was a City fan.
 
There are several City / Rangers forums on social media

used to be a time in the 70s and 80s when loads of Rangers fans came down to watch City especially derby day.

loads used to go upto Glasgow , we used to get the Tartan Special train which ran from London to Glasgow every Rangers Saturday home game, I guess similar happened for Celtic.

Rangers also opened up their Supporters Club next to Parkhead for us all day and night the other year

I also believe there is also a less publicised sectarian motive behind it, Manchester likes to distance itself from this but although this is not evident today when I was a kid it was very prevalent where I lived. And will have influenced my “passive” alignment to the Gers
Pipe Bands have regular parades on Sundays notably down Deansgate in Manchester, which from my experience, last one I witnessed was about 18 months ago are pretty tame events hardly watched except for chance curiosity by whoever happens to be out shopping when they pass.

As is well documented I and thousands of Mancs joined the party when they played that final at our place......
Subsequently they lost a lot of support that night, my city is worth more to me than a half cocked support based on a loose link instilled in me from childhood, I have subsequently try to distance myself from them since that night, having that scouser managing them helped, although did enjoy the demise of that twat Lennon and Celtic....couldn’t help myself
 
Ribchester said:
There are several City / Rangers forums on social media

used to be a time in the 70s and 80s when loads of Rangers fans came down to watch City especially derby day.

loads used to go upto Glasgow , we used to get the Tartan Special train which ran from London to Glasgow every Rangers Saturday home game, I guess similar happened for Celtic.

Rangers also opened up their Supporters Club next to Parkhead for us all day and night the other year

I also believe there is also a less publicised sectarian motive behind it, Manchester likes to distance itself from this but although this is not evident today when I was a kid it was very prevalent where I lived. And will have influenced my “passive” alignment to the Gers
Pipe Bands have regular parades on Sundays notably down Deansgate in Manchester, which from my experience, last one I witnessed was about 18 months ago are pretty tame events hardly watched except for chance curiosity by whoever happens to be out shopping when they pass.

As is well documented I and thousands of Mancs joined the party when they played that final at our place......
Subsequently they lost a lot of support that night, my city is worth more to me than a half cocked support based on a loose link instilled in me from childhood, I have subsequently try to distance myself from them since that night, having that scouser managing them helped, although did enjoy the demise of that twat Lennon and Celtic....couldn’t help myself
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Good post. As I've said on here a few times, 1 of the problems of the 08 final in Manchester was that because of its close proximity, not only did the dregs of our support make it down, the dregs of society did as well. It's was a totally different demograph from the usual match going fans. My town literally emptied, including an unsavoury element that has no real love for football.

Unfortunately, you take a a couple of hundred thousand pissed up Scots, then screens malfunction, anarchy will likely happen. Not an excuse, & certainly don't condone it, but bear it in mind when thinking about the events.
 
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