I don't believe it would be anywhere near that low but accepting for a minute that it would be, that's fine, the championship works. I think it's behind only the big 5 leagues in terms of both revenue and attendance as it is. Most of the financial problems in the championship stem from overspending due to a desperation to reach the Premier league and the riches it promises.Premier league would attract the finances of the Championship without the "big six".
You may disapprove of the new generation of football fans who support their chosen club from behind a screen in their homes. But they are there. In volume. And their interest represents a big payday for the club(s). It is delusional to suppose that clubs of the stature of those involved in this breakaway tournament will attract little support. The revenues will be huge. Those fans who will walk away are the old timers who have bought season tickets for many years. Losing them is tragic from a fan perspective, but the money will still flow into the clubs regardless. And a new generation will occupy the vacated seats at the Etihad too. Especially if the clubs price access within reach of less well-off younger fans. Dynamic pricing software means that seats can be priced to sell these days.You're failing to factor in fans impact. Football in its current form is all about financial strength because they've got a product everybody wants to see and buy into. This super league has been globally condemned, nobody wants it and without the fans paying for it, the sponsorship doesn't exist and the whole thing dies.
They might be able to generate enough interest in the likes of China and Asia to subsidise the total lack of interest in Europe to start with but those fans are short terms fans, they'll be the type of fan that changes club every year depending on who's winning they have no layalty or affiliation to a club so when competition and winning becomes a secondary concern those fans will get bored very quickly and leave in their droves and then they're left with nothing.
The elephant in the room is that we all support Manchester City, lots of us have done for many many years.
Nearly 50 years for me of loving City, many on here have many more years than that.
I don't agree with us being a part of this whatsoever but what do us fans do, walk away and go support someone else ?
It doesn't work like that but at the same time i'm disgusted by our owners actions with this.
Fcuking hell, what a mess
It's important to note that the American professional model in the big four sports is about winning one thing -- the title -- after a "best of" tournament (playoffs).You're failing to factor in fans impact. Football in its current form is all about financial strength because they've got a product everybody wants to see and buy into. This super league has been globally condemned, nobody wants it and without the fans paying for it, the sponsorship doesn't exist and the whole thing dies.
They might be able to generate enough interest in the likes of China and Asia to subsidise the total lack of interest in Europe to start with but those fans are short terms fans, they'll be the type of fan that changes club every year depending on who's winning they have no layalty or affiliation to a club so when competition and winning becomes a secondary concern those fans will get bored very quickly and leave in their droves and then they're left with nothing.
In a discussion of why this has happened and concluding it’s because UEFA is further diluting,I would love watching Bayern, City, Barca, Madrid, PSG... constantly playing against each other, but never when that implies the death of all domestic leagues and a dictatorship in who enters their super league. That's killing football.
I cannot believe how UEFA cannot come with a better idea than the current UCL format. The problem is that there are only 7(the knockout stage) elite matches and 6 "less important and exciting" matches. The solution is evident: increase the matches between the 16 more powerful teams.
A format like:
- 2 best English teams(according to EPL) + 2 Spanish + 2 Germans (or whoever is the 3rd best league currently) + 1 Italian +1 french are qualified directly to Round of 16. The remaining 8 spots are battled out in 8 groups of 3, and the best of each group qualifies. This way you minimize the "less exciting matches", improve the competitiveness of the group stages (1/3 advancing is more competitive than 2/4), and promote the importance of each league. Now being top 2 in the EPL is more significant than being 3rd or 4th.
- Now with the 16 top teams you do whatever you want to maximize the exciting matches. 2 groups of 8 with the best 4 of each going through QF, or the 1st going directly to SF, and 2-3rd battling out for the 2 remaining spots in the SF. Or 4 groups of 4 where the best 2 advances, and then 2 groups of 4 where, again, the best 2 advances. Finally, you play SF. With both of these formats, you would at least have 13-17 elite matches.
In the worst-case scenario, a team would need to play 19-25 European matches to be champions, so it would be logical to reduce each European league to 18 teams.
I literally came up with this idea quickly, and it improves the importance of the domestic league + more money due to more elite matches.
Why is the dream of these clubs getting into the premier League gone?They are fuc*ed to, that what the problem is, the dream is over.
When we were relegated into the old 3rd division, with no pot to piss in, we all had a dream, one day we would come back, one day we would win a trophy. One day we would get into the Champions league, well that dream is over...shame on us
The Championship only works because they are trying to get into something better. Winning a reformed Premier league would be meaningless without promotion to the big leagueI don't believe it would be anywhere near that low but accepting for a minute that it would be, that's fine, the championship works. I think it's behind only the big 5 leagues in terms of both revenue and attendance as it is. Most of the financial problems in the championship stem from overspending due to a desperation to reach the Premier league and the riches it promises.
Spending and wages would need a balancing out period but football would continue for the rest, you'd just have the numbers involved go back a decade or so. you'd get an ultra competitive league still with some of if not the highest attendance figures in Europe (post covid) and still the most watched league in Europe.
The elephant in the room is that we all support Manchester City, lots of us have done for many many years.
Nearly 50 years for me of loving City, many on here have many more years than that.
I don't agree with us being a part of this whatsoever but what do us fans do, walk away and go support someone else ?
It doesn't work like that but at the same time i'm disgusted by our owners actions with this.
Fcuking hell, what a mess
Via text, I've spoke to seven of my American friends today (it's still today here) who support the following sides: 2 City, 2 Liverpool, 2 Utd, 1 Spurs. All seven would cease supporting their clubs if this goes through. I'm going to be polling my 95-person strong Prem fantasy league next.You may disapprove of the new generation of football fans who support their chosen club from behind a screen in their homes. But they are there. In volume. And their interest represents a big payday for the club(s). It is delusional to suppose that clubs of the stature of those involved in this breakaway tournament will attract little support. The revenues will be huge. Those fans who will walk away are the old timers who have bought season tickets for many years. Losing them is tragic from a fan perspective, but the money will still flow into the clubs regardless. And a new generation will occupy the vacated seats at the Etihad too. Especially if the clubs price access within reach of less well-off younger fans. Dynamic pricing software means that seats can be priced to sell these days.
Maybe because only 3 countries are involved at the moment, so it not all that European yet! Maybe a non-European team or two to be invited (though I can't think of any that would be likely)
Why is the dream of these clubs getting into the premier League gone?
These six clubs will still play in the premier League every week but have their own midweek European competition instead of UEFA