The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Sorry couldn’t sleep :( — one more thing — there aren’t going to BE any traveling fans. There won’t be allocations. There won’t be buses or planes or other shit the clubs provide — that is, until the playoffs, when the tickets will be a free-for-all and almost inconceivably expensive. There may not even be fan security with rival fans cordoned off. That isn’t a revenue maximizer. We don’t do that here. You’re expected to mix and behave (even with all our guns) or get tossed.

I know this all seems crazy and foreign and you all can figure out what I’m serious about and what is tongue in cheek. But for the last time — this is the AMERICAN SYSTEM. I know it well.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

I just cant believe any club let alone City are prepared to throw everything away, all the tradition, history, excitement and challenges for a few extra quid. What about the fans, clearly we dont mean anything anymore to the owners.

I dont want to watch a closed shop competion run on the back of a sham domestic league. Wheres the pleasure in that.

I would feel embarrassed watching City play another team outside this cartel, knowing that however badly we play, however much we lose by, we will still qualify for this super league and the other club wont.

If this happens, and im preying it wont, that's the end of it for me as a match going fan im afraid, its just not what im about or into as a person, I feel pretty low at present.

Great post.

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

Worst thing is now, is that if this does collapse we’re right in it and we’ll always be known as one of the clubs trying to cut out competition

 

[ShaunMCFC]

Can we start Bluemoon FC?

@kaz7 banging in a 30 yarder against Ragcafe in the 92nd min to win the Super Forum League?

I’d bang a tenner in no questions

 

[Tugay One Cup]

One of you rich cunts needs to start FC City of Manchester.

I'd like to offer my services as a 30 year old, slender, chain smoking, Rodri stand in.

 

[paulchapo]

I'm not as against this as everybody else. I'm not entirely convinced by it but I don't think it's a disgusting outrage either.

Firstly let's get real for a moment. Football has been broken since the 1990s. People talk like we're in the 1960s where all the clubs could have a similar chance of competition. We aren't and we haven't been for decades. A Leicester could happen once but the idea that you can build a sustainable challenger to the league using your academy, good management and transfer guile is farcical. United saw to that many years ago - to compete you need a billionaire to invest in you. That's the broken part, by the way. That you need that to begin with. The English game has been financially lopsided and killed competition 20 years ago.

So the competitive morality out of the way, we look at other things such as what will happen to poor Stoke and Burnley? Nothing, presumably. More to the point, I give as much of a fuck for their future as they did for us when we were going bankrupt. My emotions are tied to Man City and whats best for them.

The Super League is what's best for City. As a founding member, we're now one of the big boys forever. If there's a revolution in the UAE tomorrow and Shiekh Mansour/his family is deposed and he's forced to sell the club then its no problem. We're in the tent pissing out, permanently. The fact that we get to fuck UEFA on the way past is icing on the cake.

My only actual concern here is for the fans. It sounds like potentially 18 European away games to the final and you just know that the Final is more likely to be in Beijing than Birmingham. Affordability is going to be a significant issue and it's the only thing that's making me doubt it. If the club did something like a European equivalent of subsidised coaches then I'd be happier with it.

But yeah. It guarantees our post UAE future, it establishes us as one of the world's biggest clubs, it fucks UEFA, it will be the competition all the biggest players want to play in, it will earn us fucking bank, what's not to like?

There is an element of truth in this. If I remember rightly there was uproar when the premier league was formed and again the champions league. Both were allowed to stop clubs breaking away from their domestic leagues. It soon became apparent that all it did was kill competition in our league until big investment owners came along at Blackburn, Chelsea and then ourselves. Before that Arsenal and the rags more or less had the title sewn up between them every year. No team could get a look in without huge investment to match their nailed on champions league money. They soon scrambled to pull up the drawbridge but we just sneaked through. They then did everything possible to get us out of their private club, first here and then in Europe. Once they failed they saw the threat of a 50,0000+ Newcastle fan base and a 60,000+ West Ham one if they got taken over. Some could be pushed out forever, hence why this league format has been formed.

We have to be very careful getting in bed with these devils. They don't like us and they don't want us there. Once in they would soon change the rules to ensure those with a rich champions league history would get the biggest share of the pot. Once again that would create a closed shop at the top. Although other club's like ourselves were in it every year, realistically we'd never have a chance of actually winning it.

I don't see how it can be stopped though. The powers that be can make as much noise as they want but they know all their tournaments without the best players in the world will be meaningless. It will be like two venues next door to each other. One has tribute acts on and the other the real artists. Which one will people pay to enter? Which one will the TV companies want to air? Sure the tribute venue will get punters in and may be aired on a minor TV channel but the real artist venue will be prime viewing and make the most money.

Fans will complain and say they won't attend and some, like David Conn won't. For every David Conn though there will be ten others waiting to take his place. If these clubs stay in their domestic leagues fans of the other teams will still pay to watch their teams get thrashed 5-0 at home by the elite clubs. I know because I like many other Blues was one of them when we were on the outside looking in.

I'm not happy this morning but I'm sure a compromise will be reached but it will still mean the elite clubs win nearly all the trophies and keep most of the money. Does the fact we are now one of them make me any happier. No, not really.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

who knows, have the club had a gun put to their head over the weekend stating "your either in the 15 now or you'll never be in"

Probably, but the same people are likely to fuck us over with some made up financial rule and expel us after a season or two leaving us to grovel to the fa for our place back in the league.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

What a pity that they survey the club sent a while ago about season card renewal isn't being sent this week. Then I could have written a long note thanking the club kindly for saving me the cost of three cards. Feel sick to the core about this scenario and I understand the sentiments about keeping your friends close and your enemies even closer but this is all wrong. Utterly disgusted by my former club doing what they are doing and as for any emotion about a possible treble this season that has all gone out of the window, I now don't give a flying fuck what happens and I suspect that is a feeling many on here share. Fuck off City I am starting divorce proceedings

 

[CatMan]

Whether this gets blocked or not the damage is done. It's like catching your wife with her knickers down, she then tells you she wants to be with someone else and files for divorce. Then you refuse to sign up so for the time being you are still married but the clock is ticking, she doesn't want you and she's eventually going.

In short, this is happening and we are as guilty, if not more guilty (as we didn't need the money) to this sporting example of whoring ourselves to the biggest bidder.

More worrying is if this happens from next year then Liverpool are hardly going to bust a nut against United.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

This is an obvious money grab that would benefit club owners at the expense of players and fans. It's a terrible idea that I hope does not come to fruition.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

All those saying we had to do it, no we didn’t. If Bayern and PSG can go without, then so can we.

I’m disgusted at the club

PSG chairman is on the UEFA board so its tricky for them but I think they will eventually follow suit. In Germany they have the 50 plus 1 rule which means 49% of the club is owned by the fans so it would have to go to a vote. Only RB Leipzig don't have that rule as they are owned by Red Bull so I can see them joining

 

[jaiguruKun]

We all knew a European Super League was on the cards, but no one expected it to happen this quickly and in this way. If thiS has nothing to do with trying to get a bigger slice of the CL, why has the announcement been timed to coincide with the day the CL reforms were being announced? I suspect the announcement of those reforms will be delayed and we will end up with a hybrid CL/ESL with certain clubs being guaranteed entry. If we hadn’t joined this, we would have gained some nice PR in the short term but strategically we’d have been worse off in the long run.

 

[northstandgiveusasong]

A disgrace!

 

[antspider]

Arsenal, Liverpool’s and Spurs christmases all come at once!
Anymore moaning I might do about our club not being treated fairly in the press to anyone who isn’t a “Pig Six” club and I will get told to quite rightly fuck off

 

[melrose40yarder]

As we seem to be going down the American sports route.
Will there be a draft system so the team that finishes bottom of Super league gets to pick the best academy players developed by all the other clubs for no transfer fee.I can see it now Haaland coming through at say Ac Milan and City have just finished bottom so we get to pick him for free.
The other thing the yanks do is all mercandise and ticket sales are shared equally anybody see that happening?

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

Pretty obvious to me he didn't know. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him walk.

And go where? All the top teams are in this shite and if wants to carry on earning as much as he does then here is where he’d stay. Maybe he packs it in all together idk

 

[Akiva]

I did more than you'll ever know. But objectively, not blindly.

This is disgusting

I can understand this, somewhat.

Most of us have supported City since we were kids off the backs of our parents doing the same and their parents the same. City is our club.

It's not that we're walking away from City, but City seems to be walking away from us. The fans don't matter any more, our voice is silent, our presence unnecessary, our support replacable. We aren't the working class Manchester "team of the people" anymore, just the rags or dippers in Blue. Our identity, history, passion and morality are all being sold off here, so can any of us honestly say this is the club we support and love?

 

[mixer]

When the cartel dick us (And eventually will) we deserve everything we get...

Wrote that and realised were now part of the cartel!!!!

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Even if as some have suggested that this may be another bluff call (which I personally dont think it is this time around) so they can dictate to UEFA - Then ALL parties should be sanctioned and banned for a set period for what they have done

I honestly think that this is more than a bluf call this time, The threats from the premier league etc etc are warranted but lets not forget that the PL also has played its part in creating the behemoth that todays game is - it isnt domestic anymore, as much as we hate to say it the game is now global on an unprecedented scale

If the super league goes through, the premier league will never kick the 6 clubs out - a deal will be settled on so the cash cow clubs that bring in the revenue can remain

 

[manimanc]

I can't make my mind up with this. On one hand I'm all for it if it means extra income coming in but on the other hand it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth that it's going to mess up the footballing ladder.
If we read between the lines basically all the clubs that are in debt are in this and it's as clear as day the only reason they've done this is because they are all flying by the seat of their pants.
One positive to come out of it I suppose is we're sticking two fingers up to UEFA after the shite they've put us through. It's going to be weird but us as fans have absolutely zero say in things. We've already released a statement saying we're part of it but another thing that sticks in my throat is us getting into bed with the enemy, the same enemy that wanted us thrown out the champions league before any outcome at CAS.
Somehow though I just can't see this new super league happening.