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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
waspish said:
they won’t need us fans if the money is right just like this super league! Government can’t do anything about clubs agreeing on a different league if clubs who are in it are happy!
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Yes, yes they can, they can refuse to grant an event licence for any major game in the UK not sanctioned by the FA or UEFA. They can deny entry to the non-UK teams.
 
It's where this leads to as well, it'll start small, a couple of home games played in New York and Miami and then before you know it we're playing half our home games outside of Manchester, Manchester based match-going fans won't go and then eventually they decide to move the club abroad to a City where fans will go.

Football needs an independent regulator to protect fans.
 
Can we not have just a little surprise, a little serendipity, unexpectedness, and oddness in life?
Must we stamp out every last bit of magic and possibility provided by inefficiency?

this is the sterile dystopian hellscape of the rich; a theater of controlled derivative simulation sold to vapid monied masses; an acquired signal of taste, a means to socially affirmed narcissistic end; a shell game of value long since extracted.

It’s all upside for them until the exit now, their game atop the game, leaving open only the question of which suckers they leave holding the bag.
 
domalino said:
Going back 15 years, 58 of the last 59 English entries into the Champions League were from the super league clubs. Leicester are the only one since 2006 to break it up and that was 1 year.

Presumably if this does go through, Everton, Leicester etc will fight for a qualification spot because it'll mean stupid money for the club, and so the competitiveness will remain at the top end.

Really, what's changed? Big 6 go to Europe, same as ever. Mid-table scrap for an impossibly small chance of qualifying.

I suppose you could say this year is the exception - Everton, Leicester, West Ham all genuinely going for the top 4, but it took a once a century global pandemic to happen, so we can't pretend like it's going to be repeated.

IMO football has been in a crisis for 30 years and at least this has brought it to a head, and we might actually start discussing how we want the sport to be. Do we want 1992-2021 domination by an ever smaller group of clubs? Or do we want a revolving door of clubs rising and falling like post war-1991?

How far are we actually willing to go to make things more competitive, make the game a level playing field?
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I don't disagree with much you have written there but if it is so cut-and-dried, why the 15 founder members having permanent residency in the competition? What are they afraid of? If these clubs choose to spend, spend, spend to try and get to the top, there has to be a risk/reward factor. Clubs being able to ring-fence themselves in is something we as a club have fought against for the past decade. I didn't like the attitude of these clubs then, I hate that we have sided with them now.
 
We were standing on the San Andreas Fault.

It tore, and as it ripped we had to jump.

But what is left. Rubble.
 
Marvin said:
The economics are with the Real Madrid, barcelona, Manchester United and Liverpool because everyone wants to watch them on TV and that generates commercial income.

However, we do not live in a world where corporations get to entirely dictate events. Capitalism is regulated by the state and I find it difficult to believe that this will be allowed to happen. I think we played a watching brief but we joined them in the end.

I would have liked it had City resisted this but perhaps that is looking at this with a supporters eyes. One of our owners is an American investment trust. Our owners are in this for money.

There is now a complete disconnect between the ethics of the game and the economics and the biggest clubs as usual want the biggest piece of pie. I feel that national governments and regulators will not allow this to happen so I am surprised that City joined up. You don't join a doomed and politically damaging initiative but join we did.
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I very much doubt that there is anything governments / regulators can do to stop this.

People are already filling this thread and no doubt social media with all sorts of ill informed and over emotional nonsense.

I'll keep reiterating that I am not in favour of this development but I have no doubt that if it goes ahead, and I think it probably will, City need to be involved.
 
It's the NBA or the NFL. They are decent competitions. They are crammed with awesome talent. The security of no relegation is huge in those scenarios.

Relegation/Promotion are part of the tradition of football but it's very risky.

Given where we are now I think football will thrive within this new structure in the long term just as well if not more than in the previous traditional structure.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The hysteria is getting comical. Why doesn't someone go and set themselves on fire outside the Etihad or something just to really make their point.
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Off you go day Dave. Enjoy your Super League games. Just make sure you make as much noise as possible, as there won't be many there like you.

If you see someone setting themselves alight outisde the Etihad before the Super League match, don't worry about it. Just get yourself in the ground for kick off.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Absolute nonsense, and yet more frantic panic.
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I wouldn't be so confident. The premiere league will likely think they're big enough to call the bluff of the clubs, to hammer home the message that participation in the ESL directly contravenes its entry criteria.

I'm certain this would make our club at least, think twice about it (although it seems with our late sign-up, that we're not 100% comfortable with the thing anyway).

The only question remains is, do the premiere league back themselves.
 
Agree with Pat Nevin here. They have all jumped on the train in case it leaves. Good chance the train doesn't leave.

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The game does move on.

If you look at American football, they have a franchise system with very few clubs and very low risk, and I always thought there would be some people interested in that model.

As a business idea, I understand it, but I don’t particularly like it. It would make the rest of us feel like second-class citizens. There is no doubt it is worrying times but we have to wait until the proposals get out.

I think there is a lot of talking to be done.

I would have been shocked if they [Chelsea] had not signed up. From a business point of view, if they are not in that list and it goes ahead, they will be left behind.

I understand why the very biggest clubs are standing on the train at the moment not knowing if it's going to leave the platform or not."
 
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