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[Keeper!]

Exactly the same as Man Utd's statement.

Just when we were about to scale the game, we go and join them.

They don't care. There are 9 billion people on this planet. Very few have the intimate connections to the club that we had through shared experience and memories of going to the game with our fathers and grandfathers now gone.

This destroys one of the most valuable things in my life and now something that I was very proud of is tainted.

I hate it when we have no control over things that really matter.

Nail on head, well said, they have destroyed the fabric of a once proud club, shame on them.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Fingers crossed

 

[Cobwebcat]

The sickest bit of all this for me is the fact Spurs are in this "elite 12".

Spurs.

Havent won a thing for years. Currently 7th in the league.

That is some sick logic.

and AC Milan

 

[Brendan110_0]

The sickest bit of all this for me is the fact Spurs are in this "elite 12".

Spurs.

Havent won a thing for years. Currently 7th in the league.

That is some sick logic.

One of the more famous London teams simply.

 

[Pell]

Did he give them an ultimatum over this ?

Disgraceful. He guided them to the Super League!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

if you love City as much as you say you do then you're watching the death of the club. It's becoming a franchise, this is the first step on the name being changed, the badge, the history, the location. That's what you're witnessing and accepting.

It'#s really not the "death of the club". It's a change in football's structure, like the abolition of maximum wage, formation of the premier league or the champions league. Just to reiterate, I don't want it or like it, but it is not going to change the club's badge, history or location and it is certainly not "the death" of the club. We are already a big franchise, we've changed the club's badge several times and we've even moved location.

 

[CC1]

The more I read about this new ESL the more there is to learn. The PL will coexist & there will be 3 annual qualifiers for the ESL. Rightly or wrongly, I think we can’t afford to be left behind - there was just as much suspicion when the PL was formed.

 

[domalino]

This proposal is likely to be against UK and EU competition law and will be outlawed
I'm ashamed of City joining in with this and it has tarnished all the clubs involved

I'm part of a family that has supported City since 1901, 5 generations and this is a betrayal of the support that Manchester families for generations have given this club through thick and thin we were there when the club needed us and clearly our owners don't understand this Such a sad day

 

[Gordyola]

Not sure about that. Dortmund sticking with UEFA is a confirmation of their strong ties with them, the influence and power they have within.

This is a battle of money vs money, they stick to one side. Doesn't make them proper or pure.

Because of the German club model the fans would have to approve it and I'm sure the powers that be at Dortmund and Bayern know they wouldn't but apparently there are 2 founder places reserved

 

[Marvin]

I very much doubt that there is anything governments / regulators can do to stop this.

People are already filling this thread and no doubt social media with all sorts of ill informed and over emotional nonsense.

I'll keep reiterating that I am not in favour of this development but I have no doubt that if it goes ahead, and I think it probably will, City need to be involved.

Football is imploding as sporting industry with any integrity but of course there is still massive money to be made. Fans will lose energy and commitment.

Emotional nonsense. Of course. We are emotionally bound to our clubs and don't really know what's going on but I struggle to see how this can happen because capital is not free. It is regulated. And the regulators will not move on his. It's a private power grab by a select few to capture the wealth associated with the game. No regulator will agree.

 

[lancs blue]

Has to be the case. They wouldn't sack him before the final unless the shit had hit the fan about something.

Maybe Levy was thinking "we're in the super league, we need a super manager". ;-)

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Mourinho’s sacking HAS to be linked to this news, considering the cup final is coming up.

Clearly Mourinho has kicked off with them and they’ve booted him out.

Never thought I would respect Mourinho.

He probably has had enough and did enough for them to let him go, so that he can walk away with a load of money.

 

[Keeper!]

It'#s really not the "death of the club". It's a change in football's structure, like the abolition of maximum wage, formation of the premier league or the champions league. Just to reiterate, I don't want it or like it, but it is not going to change the club's badge, history or location and it is certainly not "the death" of the club. We are already a big franchise, we've changed the club's badge several times and we've even moved location.

Never sold our soul in my recollection of our history.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I do love the idea that the PL, Sky and BT are the saviours, rallying against the ‘greed is good’ culture. That the various other PL clubs, who actually tried to charge extra money to watch football during the pandemic, all the clubs who charge between £40-100+ to watch a live game, and who sanction over £50 pm to subscribe to watch football on tv, are now complaining about greed.
The press, who have bitched and moaned for 10 years about anti-competitiveness and an unlevel playing field, are becoming the saviours. Ha.
And, of course, worst of all is us, the fans. Where did we think it was going to end once we didn’t denounce paying footballers hundreds of thousands of pounds a week? Messi wants £500000+ a week and we have experts on here telling us how we can afford it, not that it’s morally reprehensible. Harland wants £1M a week and we should move heaven and earth to get him. £60 for a ticket to watch city against 11 blokes stood in their own penalty area for 90 minutes and we pay it. £100+ for tickets to Wembley, city slow to sell out and their fans are worthless wretches. Now, apparently, football is a working class game that’s losing touch with its roots. What, losing touch with its roots in 2021? Now, that is funny....
There are, undoubtedly, many villains in this story but we, the fans, have been willing accomplices for far too long and I’m not convinced we can anymore take the moral high ground than the charlatans at the FA, in the media or the government (this is actually an archetypal Tory wet dream type policy to be fair).

 

[vicblueman]

You would have to think its a case of Spurs were going to do it, and thought they might as well do it when it secondary news. Either that or Jose has shown his displeasure at Spurs being involved in the ESL.

Probably the latter

 

[SWP's back]

Staying Manchester CIty FC or becoming CFG incarnate, fully and unreservedly.

I'd take option 1. Manchester City won't exist in a few years with the globalization model. It'll be rolled in to one franchise - that's the goal

Supporting this is supporting the end of the club

Again you're basing this on your own hypothesis as to what is going to happen. I don't share that same worry that Manchester City will cease to exist. As I say, this is happening with or without us, so I would rather be on the inside pissing out.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves

Stuff coming out now that he refused to take his players out onto the training pitch in response to their decision on the ESL. I can no longer call him a cünt if this is true. All rivalries are cast aside here. At least he’s fighting for what is right.

 

[Akira]

Did he give them an ultimatum over this ?

Weird timing to sack him. If they wanted to they could've sacked him ages ago. Or after the final.

This surely smells like an ultimatum. Maybe he told Levy if Spurs joined ESL, he will not manage a single game or something like that.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The proposed changes to the CL are indeed ridiculous but so is having the likes of Spurs in a tournament that they can never been excluded from. This is a club that hasn't won their own league since 1961, has only qualified for the CL on four occasions and has lost 13 out of the 35 games they have ever played in the competition. And whilst the whole CL scenario is grotesque this so called super league is worse

You are right. Few would argue that UEFA needs to survive. It is bad for the game and not only because it is a corrupt body. It has also stifled progress and innovation in the game. If UEFA had any credibility it would not be facing this challenge.
But this ESL proposal (as it stands) looks like an even worse option than the current status quo. The only hope now is that some sort of new structure emerges from this bitter battle which preserves proper competition and protects the domestic leagues. I can't see how a league where the same clubs play each other repeatedly can be sustainable for a long period of time. European football is totally different to the NFL. It is based on geography and tribal instincts going back centuries.

 

[mac]

Will the yanks and chinese that Mansour sold out to fuck off from our club. Fucking parasites