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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
RandomJ said:
Of course it will. It was literally created because those "big history" clubs didn't like that they had to earn their way into the top competition. Much easier to make your own tournament and pay yourselves more than the other clubs in it. I'm telling you City will regret getting in bed with the very people who tried to take us down.
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Not really
We all know (or should do) that at some point the Sheikh's investment in football had to show a financial return. So long as it does he's happy. If we win some stuff whilst it's making money, then happy fucking days
 
While I object to these proposals, there is enormous hypocrisy here: the creation of the Premier League did something v similar, and if UEFA and FIFA weren't such a completely corrupt shambles there might be some effective governance in the game. There are almost no big players in football with clean consciences. There is no effective governance of the game or proper regulation of ownership. While those remain in place this kind of thing will keep happening...
 
paulchapo said:
This tweet kind of reinforces my earlier point, even in this league it's skewed in favour of the old elite clubs

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The options were to fade into obscurity in a dead league or join a new league and be better off than if we didn’t join, but far less well off than the old cartel. But knowing that you sold your soul and fucked the fans. Make no mistake, City will not be able to live with the history clubs in this super league. They will all get 350m per year and there will be criteria that ensures City get less than half that. Our time was up either way as the top club, but at least keep your integrity ffs. City are fucked, and quite frankly they deserve to be.
 
Does anyone really think if this goes ahead the premier will kick out those six clubs? Because if they do those clubs that are left will be in the shit financial the next tv deal will be peanuts if these six clubs get kicked out! Also this banning players from international football will be challenged! The champs league was getting stale, the only thing about the super league that wrong is the closed shop if it wasn’t there wouldn’t be as much uproar..

I said few years back look out for these American owners buying clubs in the premier and how they bought them because one day they will want to Americanise it well here’s the day..
 
The consequence of not joining are worse than the consequence of joining, IMO. Given our relationship with UEFA I can see why the club have jumped into this. The outcome is unclear though - I see the end game as still a CL style competition with UEFA but the clubs holding much more power than the organisation that runs it. It’ll be an interesting next move.
 
Europe has some very impressive rivers. The Thames, Seine, Danube, Po, Ebro, Rhine etc etc.

But the river that is flowing the strongest right now is the river Avarice!!!

If the day comes our Owners sell us down that river of extreme greed then it will be an extremely sad day for us mere mortals. Supporters who have stood together way before the money came will soon(if true) feel shafted by the biggest canal barge pole in Europe!

It seems the death knell of the game/club i/we love so passionately. : (

Here's a song for our owners to listen to by a Manchester band. They played at Maine road remember. Not sure our owners had even heard of us back then nevermind remember, but WE blues remember!

Caught By The River/Doves
Would you give it all away? To sheikh Mansour and khaldoon Al Mubarak and co.
 
The only way to stop this is kicking out the clubs, that won't happen, that extra money will get us a worldie player, next season starts with the new super league, sky and bt will get involved the media will love it flying all over Europe for glamour fixtures the hype will over come the disgust, in a couple of seasons it will be the norm and the world will turn, if you don't want to follow city anymore don't care,welcome to the digital age we've just replaced you with 3 over seas fans thanks for your loyal support but xyz will spend money you won't , that's what will happen and there's fuck all as fans we can do about
 
Can we not have the government give these ‘big 6 owners’ a set amount of time to sell the clubs. Failure to sell within the time given will result in seizure of assets?

These cunts can go make tigers city or something. Then they can do what they want!!
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
5 different clubs won the premier league in the last decade.
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All 5 were owned by billionaires. That's the entire point. You're arguing against the Super League which is a competition that is essentially locked off by about 15 clubs who can realistically win it, in favour of the Premier League which is a competition that is essentially locked off by about 5 clubs or so who can realistically win it.

I've arguments against the Super League myself but the "it kills competition" one isn't a real argument.
 
Just caught the last part of Silly Sally on BBC sports news she was interviewing Ex City chairmen David Bernstien ,then she interviewed Kevin Parker from city supporters club, talking about greed and money etc, funny how nobody from Utd or Liverpool were interviewed.
 
Marvin said:
The game has been going this way for years. This is its logical conclusion.

Of course I hate it to the core. No relegation and right by entitlement is against sport but I don't think City had much choice in this.
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Let's join the dots on this:
  • 'underwritten' by JP Morgan (not 'financed')
  • JP Morgan is a US investment bank
  • the model is very similar to US sports franchises
  • JP Morgan are obviously expecting to make a profit on this by selling the rights around the World (and, let's not misunderstand, the market for this is the world, not England or Europe) and they are no mugs
  • It is almost certainly driven by the US owned clubs
So, faced with this, City have two choices - get involved or not. We can sit outside and take the moral high ground but if it actually happened and was successful (bith big 'ifs' I grant you) then our business would take a big, big hit. And let's not forget, we've all been shouting from the rooftops that the purchase of City in 2008 was a business investment and the aim is for HHSM to make a big profit in the long run by turning it into a global sports business. Taking a big hit is not part of the plan. And for those who say 'being banned from the PL etc. gives a bigger hit', that may be true (I'm sure someone is crunching the numbers as we speak) but, if so, then clearly the ESL won't happen - but it depends who blinks first (the PL would be a lame duck without the top 6 as well so it's a lose/lose situation).

So, whilst it may leave a sour taste in the mouth, I can understand entirely why the board have thrown their lot in with the ESL idea.
 
Rascal said:
My initial reaction was pretty much one of horror at the thought of this. I saw the impassioned pleas of Neville and nodded along,

The clubs though have a point. How long have City fans hated UEFA, called it corrupt, despised the CL?

This is a breakaway from UEFA not the PL, we would still play in the PL and without UEFA squad limits we could easily afford a squad of 40 players that are registered for both competitions.

Covid has shown that the appetite for live football on TV remains even if no fans attend, so don't think that fans will be important, there not already.

I don't like the people involved with setting it up, that is the downside, but they also have dealings with UEFA and if like us as fans they see UEFA as corrupt then can you blame them for wanting out?

The proposed changes to the CL are ridiculous so why not fuck UEFA off and go it alone. Leave them and their shitty CL to be played for by clubs finishing 4th in domestic leagues. UEFA have brought this on themselves. Fuck em
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The proposed changes to the CL are indeed ridiculous but so is having the likes of Spurs in a tournament that they can never been excluded from. This is a club that hasn't won their own league since 1961, has only qualified for the CL on four occasions and has lost 13 out of the 35 games they have ever played in the competition. And whilst the whole CL scenario is grotesque this so called super league is worse
 
Blue Coop said:
The consequence of not joining are worse than the consequence of joining, IMO. Given our relationship with UEFA I can see why the club have jumped into this. The outcome is unclear though - I see the end game as still a CL style competition with UEFA but the clubs holding much more power than the organisation that runs it. It’ll be an interesting next move.
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I'd rather see us broke in the PL than a cash cow in the SL.
 
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