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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Pep must have been privy to this and support it.

He only signed a new contract in November and the owners must have shared some of the vision with him, especially as he classes them as "friends". On the other side of this, if he signed that contract and had no prior warning or knowledge and hates the idea, I can see him walking.
 
Think I will start supporting Maine Road if this goes ahead, will always be a Blue at heart but I won’t be lining the pockets the juggernaut rolling over the top of football as we know it...

The prawn sandwich brigade can crack on without me...!
 
Hope the response to this is not the usual british shrugging of shoulders and just hope it goes away.
There really needs to be a organized campaign to stop this shit.
Collective club action,petitions to let club owners know the extent of opposition to this.
It's extraordinary that some extra cash can convince club owners that this is a sensible move.Why give up being big fish in a small pond to become smaller fish in a larger pond,there can only be one league winner.
The financial advantage that our clubs have currently over the other big european leagues through the tv deals would be lost and the lure of Real and Barca would likely become greater,fairly soon we might become also rans.
This is not even taking into account the damage to 150 years of our domestic game and our reputation that at the first sign of cash being dangled in front of our noses we fuck off.
 
rickmcfc said:
Pep must have been privy to this and support it.

He only signed a new contract in November and the owners must have shared some of the vision with him, especially as he classes them as "friends". On the other side of this, if he signed that contract and had no prior warning or knowledge and hates the idea, I can see him walking.
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I would say it is absolutely nailed on he would have been told about it, the same with KDB too.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
They would be destroying themselves financially if they did want the 6 kicked out.
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Kicking the top 6 our of the Premier League would probably destroy half the pyramid.

The TV rights deal that's currently up for renewal would be 1/3rd of what it was before at best? Club's would go from earning £100m a year to £25m, maybe 30?

Some Premier league clubs would not be able to downsize quick enough. The transfer market would crash, the parachute payments would stop and bankrupt some Championship clubs. Money would stop going from PL -> Champ -> League 1 & 2 via transfers. Support payments would be decimated.

Best case scenario would be English football going from the biggest and richest league in the world to an also ran alongside Belgium, Netherlands, Russia etc.

Every owner would lose half the valuation of their club.

It would be the suicide.
 
Rascal said:
The clubs though have a point. How long have City fans hated UEFA, called it corrupt, despised the CL?

This is a breakaway from UEFA not the PL, we would still play in the PL and without UEFA squad limits we could easily afford a squad of 40 players that are registered for both competitions.
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That's an argument for leaving the Mafia to join the Camorra.

I.e. No argument at all.
 
rickmcfc said:
Pep must have been privy to this and support it.

He only signed a new contract in November and the owners must have shared some of the vision with him, especially as he classes them as "friends". On the other side of this, if he signed that contract and had no prior warning or knowledge and hates the idea, I can see him walking.
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Agree so why the fuck was he talking about us building history in the CL 6 days ago.
 
English football sold it's soul in 1992

Football clubs around the world sold their souls when they were bought out by billionaires

Manchester City FC sold it's tradition when the owners dropped the 'FC' from the name

It's a capitalist society - Shit like this happens every day around the world. Winners and losers.

As football fans,what have we actually 'lost'? - Answer, in real terms, a lot less than we will 'gain' in the long term.

Traditional football died in 1992, so what are we crying about now...? The loss of an old friend? I think not.

I'm a traditionalist. I've loved football through the 60s to the present day. I've just loved it a bit less every few years, as it became more and more of a business than a sport. Same with a lot of things in life. The departures of traditional football men like Wardle and Bernstein signalled the beginning end for me, but even so, I still kept buying my seasoncards.

The world of 'entertainment' moves forward - What is happening is outside our control. We can stamp our feet and type long messages on social media etc, but at the end of the day, it's someone else's ball, and they make the rules. We can either keep going to games, or look for something else to entertain us. I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't go again.

I said years ago that I did not trust overseas owners involved in English football, and later expressed serious doubt over the long-term intention of Sheikh Mansour?ADUG in relation to the club. I felt at the time that we were getting in bed with the wrong people, and was criticised for even daring to question Mansour and Co.

Billionaires are billionaires because they're ruthless bastards - They don't give a shit about the 'little people' paying a couple of thousand or so a year towatch football. For every one who leaves, there are 20 tourists waiting to buy their ticket.

I look back to 2008 and remember celebrating the takeover. At the time, a rag mate (an early member of the FC United movement) said to me; "be careful what you wish for... You just might get it".

This is us 'getting it' now. The owners are heartless bastards who have never actually given a shit about the fans, tradition etc. It was all lip-service, keeping ex-players like Summerbee etc around to provide fans a tentative link to the past... It's a sham.

I'll probably still go to games in a Super League, just like I'd still go to games if we were in the Conference. It's a tough habit to break after 60 years.

One thing I do know for sure though... Manchester City died yesterday when they put Glazer's message on the website... If Mansour and Co, Pep, and all the players f*cked off tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear about it. It's just killed off a bit more of my love for the game.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Nah, they'll be getting destroyed financially anyway, this will massively devalue the league.
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I suspect their will still be value in the PL with the 6 there. Very little without them. Would be more like a glorified Championship with the income to match. There could also be a PL team or two still harbouring hopes of being invited to join that perhaps wouldn't want to piss the 6 off.

Time will tell. I would love things to continue as they are but I think it has gone beyond that now.
 
ZanteWeatherman said:
The Americanisation of the beautiful game.... no promotion/relegation. Just the same old same old year after year with certain delusional clubs thinking they are the dogs bollocks and getting twatted game after game, year after year. What will they do ten years down the line with few fans, no tinpot trophies and nowhere to go.

Imho 'fans' will be pissed off (no doubt most of the proper fans are already with this potential shit show). Should it go ahead, any transitional/not proper fans will notice their team is shit, so just 'support' a different team.

How will it all impact on City Football Group as a whole, in and out transfers, the academy teams, the ladies team, CITC etc etc, this will not end good.

My view, City should have distanced themselves from this immediately. As they didn't, they should fuck it off rapidly (and let the world know we were wrong to get involved) before the fans bail, City Tv goes tits up along with merchandising. Corporate will jump ship in due course, sponsors will probably do one too. Total income will taper off and it will be too late.

A shit show indeed......and I won't be having any of it.
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Boris is saying that he will legislate against the proposal. I think he will hire a big red bus with spurious figures on its side and tell everybody to vote remain. Or perhaps not.
 
There are some right flippers on here aren't there?
It won't happen. It just won't fucking happen. The whole bit about only certain clubs being relegated means it won't happen. I know they've done a fair bit of planning but it will end with a shit compromise. UEFA won't lose their cash clubs and something even more corrupt than the CL will be the result.
If this super league goes ahead as planned I'll eat my hat. Maybe not as my head will get cold. So if this goes ahead I'll eat pie, chips and gravy. Either way it won't go ahead as outlined in the papers today.
 
Akiva said:
I'd take obscurity any day over losing my club.

City, for what it's worth, has always been more deeply connected with it's heritage and Manchester. We've prided ourselves on being the club of the people, the working class, generational team. Today we dispel the myth, we're just as rotten at the core as the rest of them.
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Not sure everyone would. As I said sour taste for me.
 
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