Gorton_Tubster
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Yanks FUCK OFF out of our game. The absolute cheek of them
What about Harry?
So you’ve got ‘an opinion’ to quote and I’m delighted for you but, I repeat, not all cartels are illegal and the breakaway group will undoubtedly have engaged very specialist opinion from the very highest echelons before starting out on their course.I understood what you wrote A sports lawyer on the radio has said that it could be deemed a cartel for the reasons I wrote. Its also been mentioned by one of the associations I don't doubt that the lawyers have been consulted however, a lawyer's opinion is only of value once its been challenged in court.
Your example isn't a cartel as they aren't colluding to increase profits or dominate the market
Here's a few other opinions
Elsewhere, sports lawyers have warned there is a “massive risk” that the new European Super League could be blocked under EU sports law, with one leading expert only rating the chances of it being allowed as “50-50”, reports Tim Wigmore.
“My instinct is under the current legal framework and approach that it is 50-50,” said Darren Bailey, a lawyer and consultant to Charles Russell Speechlys’ sports group who was formerly the Football Association’s director of football governance and regulation.
Is he wrong though?Oh dear.
The Magic Eight Ball says - In your dreams, matey. :)Is there absolutely no possibility they can see their way to letting us finish the competition?
For old times sake ;)
Yeh I may well be underestimating the sheer financial prize offered right now by tapping into white guys in Wisconsin or wherever, as opposed to some truly global market that's more future potential. It's easy to get caught up in the global nature of European football when (for example from my experience) you can watch the premier league in a bar in Dar Es Salaam, forgetting that these fans are worth fuck all in broadcasting/advertising revenue in the big picture.a) Agreed. But the USA -- white middle-class USA mind you -- is a VERY large, and mostly untapped market, seeing a change in how young people think about and consume sport, and with one of the "big four" sports (baseball, as played by youngsters) in serious decline, and the competitive league (MLS) still growing but not yet a "major" sport (Atlanta United draws more fans than City; Chicago Fire draws fewer than Bournemouth -- or thereabouts).
b) It's harder for me to agree with this because I am a "legacy fan" according to the SL owners, and one of the reasons I love the league structure is precisely because of its differences to US sports -- balanced schedules (not true in any American sport), promo/relegation (not true in any American sport), random draw cups (not true in any American sport save soccer), regular season winner in the league is automatic champion (not true in any American sport). And some of these would, I think go away in a Super League (under my permanent 20-team full-league model) and some would be kept.
c) Important to know just how huge Liga MX is in the US.
U.S. Viewership Of Liga MX Playoffs Smashes EPL And MLS Ratings
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U.S. Viewership Of Liga MX Playoffs Smashes EPL And MLS Ratings
2.5 million people watched the second leg between Chivas and América.the18.com
Of course that's the playoffs, but still -- while I think you're right that immigrant-descended populations are hungry for soccer, most of those I know (from all over the world) do already have their favo(u)rite sides and the ability to watch them somehow with streaming. I think the bigger opportunity is with non-immigrants personally.
I’ve seen quite a few comments online from neutral fans that has put the blame entirely on our shoulders.Everybody at work, who spoke to me about this today, was against the idea.
They were all, like me absolutely disgusted with the thought of it.
Some still think they are great. I’d trade the last 12 years for us not to be involved in this charade.Of course we’d get support from other clubs and fans if we did. Most pundits including the likes of Carragher and Neville would be praising us. Unfortunately though our lovely rich owners are as greedy and snide as the rest of these tossers involved.
it’s virtually a closed shop, no top 4 qualifying and the same teams every year.If it’s only instead of the Champs League, how does it really fuck over clubs like Burnley and Sheffield Utd? The Prem League will carry on with us and Liverpool etc still involved.
Isn’t it just the CL by another name with different (richer) backers and fewer games against Scandinavian part timers in early rounds?
Or have I once again completely misunderstood?
Dippers are.It's the 3 losing quarter finalists that aren't leaving UEFA
I bet Everton feel like the drawbridge is being pulled up just as they are on the verge of becoming a force again too. New stadium planned, top manager attracting better players. Some good additions over the next few windows and you could see them getting top 4.After years of investing in their team, they are finally on the verge of qualifying for the Champions League. I'd imagine they're raging.
Yes.. it fucks over the 14 clubs that effectively cannot dream of qualifying for the elite euro competition as its a closed shop. It also removes a lot of the competition as the 6 super league clubs know their place is cemented so won't be pulling up any trees around this time of yearIf it’s only instead of the Champs League, how does it really fuck over clubs like Burnley and Sheffield Utd? The Prem League will carry on with us and Liverpool etc still involved.
Isn’t it just the CL by another name with different (richer) backers and fewer games against Scandinavian part timers in early rounds?
Or have I once again completely misunderstood?
Yes, a lovely place, the way the cooling tower floodlights glint magically off the abattoir tin roof is a sight to behold.Is that a place in Cheshire ?
why ? It is an open poll
Mainly because it keeps being posted by people then labelling them scum, traitors or cunts, which I believe is also against the CoC.
Organised Crime.We've started a business as a minor stakeholder no less, with the clubs we've historically hated for over 100 years, the clubs that just 12 months ago actively tried to destroy us and were very open about it. In what other walk of life would that seem like a reasonable thing to