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[willipp]

I think when they announce the predictable U-turn then there will be a collective sigh of relief and will be soon forgotten.

I hope so mate. This is like a bad fucking dream.

 

[manchester blue]

Why?
You do know this is the same man currently bankrolling a league 2 up the pyramid? Had no issue accepting millions from the glazers, building businesses off the back of the rags name and has a job at Sky purely because of his past.

We were bankrolled.

Plenty of people I know hate their employers but take the dollar.

Loads of people have businesses on the back of clubs. Mary Ds for example.

He has a job at Sky because he is a good pundit and if Sky goes bust tomorrow he will get another gig in the blink of an eye and more tellingly not need to do so if he chooses.

 

[City Raider]

City have a great opportunity here. Do the right thing and almost overnight the hatred of who we are and what we represent will change.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Exactly what it is. Carra admitted it earlier stating they had meetings with people at sky this afternoon. Sky are driving the narrative. Same way they do with everything. The aguero elbow anyone. Going on about it enough inevitably changes minds. They will suffer financially as a result and have the most to lose

So because they work for Sky - they’re not allowed to disapprove of this proposal ?

You think these two actually want this Super League ? Which would pretty make them the only people who do.

the truth is, they have lived there whole lives in football, they’re passionately involved and just like everyone on here - they don’t want it ruined.

 

[MCFC1993]

The problem these 14 PL clubs have is what if the big 6 say ok?

Then you go with it and pray that regulations come in from the government etc...

Fans of the big 6 come together and turn their back on the 'Super' league. We can't half arse this one.

 

[SWPISHOME]

The irony of SKY pundits bleating about a closed shop and money ruining the game.

What's even more funny is Carragher "We need players and managers to speak out now to help this"...

Hicks and Gillette in charge of Liverpool taking every penny and leaving them in enormous debt...Did Carragher speak out then? No he kept his trap shut. He's a moron like the rat that sits beside him.

 

[decmancity]

This isn't about Sky or Salford City or the Manchester rivalry, not in any way. Please don't let your prior feelings about Gary Neville cloud your judgement.

This Super League proposal will end football as we know it if it goes ahead and the only small chance we have of preventing it is if everyone puts their rivalries aside for a while and pushes collectively. When it's in the mud you can go back to hating him all you want.

It’s about football in general and Neville is happy living off the back of the rags and owning a football team himself fucking up the league pyramid but doesn’t like it when someone has the audacity to tell him to fuck off. Clearly going to have to agree to disagree here.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

The danger here is tomorrow United and Liverpool withdraw from the super league citing “we have listened to our fans” and the whole charade crumbles and City are left holding the baby while the red shites are forever sanctified as “the teams that saved football from City”.

We need to get out ahead of this. If not tonight then first thing tomorrow.

I have faith in Pep. I hope he comes out swinging against this.

I don't think there's any way the rags or dippers can get away from this. They're all in. Chelsea could gazzump us I guess.

 

[lee one pen]

Then you go with it and pray that regulations come in from the government etc...

Fans of the big 6 come together and turn their back on the 'Super' league. We can't half arse this one.

Government are threatening to not police any esl matches

 

[wolviedinho]

I can’t watch these 2 cunts on sly telling the world how unfair competition is now and they are united as 1. Disingenuous cretins.

listening to them bleat on about both their clubs and their glorious past is vomit inducing. I am changing my vote to yes just so I don’t have to listen to these wankers in the future.

United and Liverpool have ruined football not the super league.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

City have a great opportunity here. Do the right thing and almost overnight the hatred of who we are and what we represent will change.

What is ‘the right thing’ in this context?

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I don't think there's any way the rags or dippers can get away from this. They're all in. Chelsea could gazzump us I guess.

You may be correct. But if any team is going to bring this idea down it has to be us. If not, when the dust has setttled it will be remembered as “do you remember that time City tried to kill football and team X saved us?”

 

[rickmcfc]

I’ve read hundreds of pages of this thread today and there’s still something I just can’t get my head around.
15 founders that never get relegated but 5 that can right?
So, they get 5 teams to make up the 20 (let’s imagine they’ve got their 15), who potentially cause a shit storm with threatened sanctions from their own leagues on leaving and put themselves at risk of relegation if they don’t perform?
Will their respective leagues welcome them back with open arms like long lost sons whilst preparing to wave off the next lamb to the slaughter?
Who willingly signs up for this in their right mind?
This is potentially every 1st tier league in Europe held to ransom by welcoming back the failures at one time or another!
Am I missing something?

very good point!

 

[Deleted member 77198]

So because they work for Sky - they’re not allowed to disapprove of this proposal ?

You think these two actually want this Super League ? Which would pretty make them the only people who do.

the truth is, they have lived there whole lives in football, they’re passionately involved and just like everyone on here - they don’t want it ruined.

And like they said, this is now a time for a truce between all the fans of all the rivals, this is bigger than that!

 

[OntarioBlue]

I hope they stand firm and then we have to back out. I'd rather play West Ham, Leicester, Wolves etc... every week than European elite. I'm not losing the Premier League for the fucking Super League.

At least we can go to the away games in the Premier League!

As a matter of interest if we leave the Premier League where do we go ? Championship, Divsion 1 ?

You cant run a football franchise (see what I did) playing 20 games a season.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I'm 63 and football from the sixties and seventies has gone forever so I'm not shocked. It does look like TV has won out over match going fans but we knew that already. The key point for me in all this is the protected status of the chosen few, if they compromise and make it on merit rather than global appeal then it would ultimately just be a champions league replacement which I could live with. If however the Usain Bolts of the football world insist on being given a 10metre start then the competiveness will die. Interestingly it looks like most of us prefer Stoke on a wet Monday than Barcelona 4 times a season.

Agreed. I don't have a problem with a CL replacement but a closed league where we would be automatically qualified for 23 years at least with Perez as chair and Henry and Glazer as VC? Absolutely not a fucking chance. Not now, not ever.

 

[malg]

Government are threatening to not police any esl matches

Jesus..... that'll happen.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

I can’t watch these 2 cunts on sly telling the world how unfair competition is now and they are united as 1. Disingenuous cretins.

listening to the bleat on about both their clubs and their glorious past is vomit inducing. I am changing my vote to yes just so I don’t have to listen to these wankers in the future.

Enjoy being also ran in new plastic league

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

I can’t watch these 2 cunts on sly telling the world how unfair competition is now and they are united as 1. Disingenuous cretins.

listening to them bleat on about both their clubs and their glorious past is vomit inducing. I am changing my vote to yes just so I don’t have to listen to these wankers in the future.

United and Liverpool have ruined football not the super league.

I’m wholeheartedly against the ESL, but they’re getting a bit sickening now

 

[I'm Blue]

The danger here is tomorrow United and Liverpool withdraw from the super league citing “we have listened to our fans” and the whole charade crumbles and City are left holding the baby while the red shites are forever sanctified as “the teams that saved football from City”.

We need to get out ahead of this. If not tonight then first thing tomorrow.

I have faith in Pep. I hope he comes out swinging against this.

Regardless of the outcome, pound to a penny we're getting a large proportion of the blame for this.
It certainly won't be the media darlings.
If it fails you can guarantee they'll soon have their heads right back up their arses sooner rather than later.