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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
decmancity said:
He is here to make money. This deal makes more money than ever before and that is exactly the reason they bought us.

Surely you don't think Khaldoon cares about the club in any way the same way we do as fans?
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If it goes wrong then we will lose money. It’s not a given it’s a gamble.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Can I ask how a fan of another club that isn’t invited feels about all this? We are outraged and we are part of the elite (cartel). How does this sit with you with regards to how it affects your own club?
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As a Leicester fan, I can tell you that I'm absolutely seething. I never thought I'd see something that cynical put in motion and close to indeed see the light.

The timing is awful, the gatekeeping is abhorrent, the financial gap was already big, now it will be impossible to fill up. The money a team in this Snake League gets every season, no matter how shit they are, will allow them to pillage all the other clubs at will, even more than ever.

It completely kills any kind of competition, makes the national leagues irrelevant. It's like the three estates system in France before their Revolution. You have a selected few teams who have it all, forever, by some divine right, the rest can fuck off and die. Talk about pulling up the ladder.

Glad to see that vast majority of your fans don't agree with this crap and hope that it will somehow be stopped.
 
Apparently there is genuine concern about the younger generation not being into football as much. They all care about the star players and bigger teams. Is that because EA’s FIFA is so big now?

Could argue that there’s also so much focus put on the bigger teams that it makes the smaller clubs even less likely to get support. How many kids now would support Oldham over City or Utd?

Also feedback that the matches are too long and there’s too many boring games.

I’d argue ticket prices have had a bigger impact on many youngsters not going to games as much as they used to. If they’re not in the habit of going to games early on then they might never get into it but many families just can’t afford to go or feel the money is better spent on something else.
 
Akiva said:
So he's as much a **** as the Glazers, Perez, Kronke etc - despite his great efforts to demonstrate otherwise - that much is abundantly clear.

That doesn't somehow make this a good direction for City and almost certainly not a good direction for football. If you're saying that it's the Sheikh finally cashing in, then ok, but there's plenty of reasons why the club itself should want to get the hell out while they still can (or before the government pushes)
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Well he is a businessman.

Sheikh Mansour is not going anywhere, he is just finally getting a return, so do SilverLake and so do the Chinese. Unfortunately thats how this world works.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I don't get how people don't understand this. No one - NO ONE - thinks UEFA or the Premier League or the Champions League is a paragon of virtue or civic minded charity. But at it's very core it's a competition that West Ham or Leicester or Everton or Man City, through good management, investment, good luck or a mixture of the three, can work towards. Yes, the scales or rigged, yes that's easier said than done, but it's clear to everyone how you do that. This breaks that, and it breaks it in a way where there is no going back. The CL can always be rejigged or reformed, for better or worse, but this shatters 70 years of national football's relationship to European football and is just deeply, grossly unfair. Of all the fans, you'd hope City fans understand this. They've used a pandemic to pull a trigger on something that if it happened 10 years ago would have killed us dead.

We aren't bigger or more important than Newcastle, Derby, West Ham, Everton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and so on and so on, we are just having a good run. We don't deserve a good run forever, no one does.
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All true bud but these so called clubs have tried to destroy city. Or at the very least gave their approval. So I ask the question? Why did these clubs turn against us with the backing of uefa? Yet we now have to save them? It don’t sit right with me. Maybe it is petty.
 
city2 said:
I want to see khaldoon make a club statement today and admit they have got it wrong and with immediate effect we have on board the fans of this great club we have decided we no longer want to join this breakaway. Come on City do the right thing before it goes to far.
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It has already gone too far. I genuinely can't see any way of turning back now, for anyone. Wishfil thinking and clinging on to hope.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
When the pyramid was still in exactly the same meritocratic place it had been previously? This is completely different to then
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The PL focused the money on the top division. It was another step on the road to where we are now. As the wealth has increased it has become increasingly difficult for a club to get promoted and become established. It requires serious investment.

Everton FC are fucking hypocrites.
 
Cobwebcat said:
If it goes wrong then we will lose money. It’s not a given it’s a gamble.
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But how does it go wrong?

However, lets say the super league lasts 5 years and we make 850m in revenue which is a nice tidy sum just off that one tournament.

If it does go tits up, we all go back to UEFA and they cry at the feet of the chairman and thank the heavens for us coming back and all is forgotten.
 
BobKowalski said:
No, City are in this because ultimately this is what they want too, for themselves and the investors that have come on board.

City may have preferred it happen differently, or with the backing of UEFA or FIFA, but City who have fought UEFA and other top clubs to get a seat at the top table were never going to pass on an invite to join as a founding member of this type of competition. It is pretty much what they have wanted for the past decade. To be in at the start and set the rules.

UEFA may entice City back with promises etc, but UEFA tried to fuck us twice so what value do their promises have? The game changer could be FIFA, who are just as likely to give this their backing as oppose it.

Right now you have twelve clubs with contracts and £3.5 billion funding. What are UEFA going to do? Ban them from a competition they aren’t interested in playing in? Ban players from the Euros? Good luck with that. Also the PL, same question. Ban the six biggest clubs? Again good luck, because what would be left is the Championship version 2. You think anyone is paying billions to watch Burnley v Brighton?

Things aren’t going back to the way it was. Not for the PL and not for UEFA. The 12 clubs have already ‘won’. To get the clubs back UEFA have to offer what the ESL offers. For the PL, they need those six clubs, otherwise they just have a slightly better version of the Championship.
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Yeah, I get all that Bob and no doubt you're right on a lot of it but that doesn't alter the fact that this is a complete and utter shit show. Not just from the angle of the closed shop, but also that it could destroy the domestic leagues. Our bread and butter. You see, for many match going fans it's not just the big games that appeal to us. It's those games against the lesser teams too. The excitement of being drawn away in the cup and clocking up a new ground. I was buzzing when we got Burton in the League Cup a couple of years back - the chance of visiting a new ground, and one where the away end is terraced, doesn't come along that often these days.

The same applies to the European games too. Sure, having seen us play at Barca, Real, and Bayern is great but I've often enjoyed my trips to other grounds more. Sevilla was a cracking trip. Santander too, even though we lost 3-1 in a dead rubber, when myself and Shez from Wythenshawe got wasted in the pissing rain in some park with the Santander Ultras. Gladbach away when a local German TV crew turned up on the Xmas market we were drinking on and they asked us to give them a song. So we gave them a rendition of the "Watching City on a Wednesday night" chant, complete with all the swear words which then went out on their 6pm news bulletin.

Do I - and many other match going fans - really want to swap all those memories for the prospect of playing the same fucking teams umpteen times a season? You see, a breakaway league doesn't have to be as wank as this. It could've been a genuine, fairer, alternative to UEFA's current European competitions. It could've preserved our domestic leagues. And it could've still earned these clubs more money in TV rights than they earn now if it had been promoted in the right way to the highest bidders. The likes of Amazon would've still loved to have a piece of it rather than the shitty end of the Premier League TV rights they've got at the moment.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Many said the same about Bayern and PSG too, yet they stood firm.
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If the thing ever gets started and looks like it has legs both of those will be in the door like a shot. It seems that this in some respects is a clever approach which allows a club retain the moral high ground while the shit is hitting the fan but retaining a secret invite to the party up their sleeve should they change their mind. Apparently 3 such clubs already exist.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Pep is asking we put something out today, he's rightly pissed about the timing.
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I just want Pep to be honest, I believe he is a very principled man ( lets not forget his pro Catalonia stance), hopefully he will put friendship and maybe even his job and call it straight, he owes it to the fans and to his players who have given him their all.
 
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