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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%

  • Total voters
    2,063
The club finally got it correct, after we'd all been put through the mill. Now we go back to UEFA with Tebas on its executive committee, things are never straightforward for City. Wonder whats next!
 
I think we deserve that at the least, but probably be up to Pep again tonight to speak?

Whatever Khaldoon says, I doubt we will ever know the full extent. Perhaps he will gladly take a Mea Culpa, to fight another day.
He has today something to us. There must be a reason for the delay.
 
They still needed six Premier League clubs to be involved from the genesis, or it left them exposed to a 15-club vote from the rest of the league.

The Americans still required City for viability, no other club in the Premier League was left to justify a Super League entrant, having already laughably included Spurs in the equation.

The fact City were the last to accept is because we were the last to be offered. Ask yourself how and why Spurs and Arsenal would receive an invite before ourselves and Chelsea, that purpose and who did it serve?

We have played both ends of this, undoubtedly, which is why it unraveled as quickly as it was started, once we pulled the plug.

It didn't collapse because City were so relevant to the supposed glamour, it collapsed because two English clubs leaving, exposed four other clubs to the very real risk of being booted out of their own domestic league.

The saddest thing, for me, whatever funny business and back channeling has taken place, City supporters have likely been used as an acceptable political football in the fallout.
I've seen this argument put forward and i can't square it - if City dragged their feet for just 24 more hours into Monday lunch, they would have seen the opprobrium and distaste and could have safely walked without ever being in the original 'gang'. Furthermore, there could not have been any such vote that quickly AND city would have been one of the 15 and could have just vetoed any move to expel, based on the grounds they wanted to see what was unfolding.
 
I have to say I'm shocked at how many posters are bending over backwards to act as apologists for the club. The club behaved in the most deplorable way and we need to accept that. It doesn't reflect badly on the fans, the players or the manager but the club fucked up and we can't defend that.
It’s never black & white nor is it clear cut. The club did fuck up but they made amends by leaving. Also we were not the driving force behind this tournament. No presidents or VP came from city. We jumped in for 2 reasons IMO. 1. pressure from the other clubs 2. Seen it as an opportunity to fuck with uefa.

It’s is nothing more than football politics between huge organisations. The little man always gets shafted. Fans will always support their clubs. Uefa have come out of this with the moral high ground which is freighting.

The winners today: Uefa

The losers today: the cartel

City sit somewhere in the middle.
 
Anyone that thinks the American Soccer League or ESL as some call it is going away is deluded. My prediction is that they will come back in summer and say they are breaking away from their leagues, they will play all matches at the weekend and the billions promised now will be from Amazon showing matches.
I just hope we don't get into bed (again) with them.
It can come providing we aren't part of it and also providing the various leagues say all participating clubs must rejoin at 5th level or lower when it goes tits up. And no playing in domestic tournaments either. This isn't a 4-team pre-season cup it's designed as a threat.
 
There are a lot of split views on whether certain members of Citys hierarchy should apologise for what has happened since the news broke about all of this.
My answer is simple. An explanation is needed from Khaldoon. In what way and when I don't know, that's up to him. I've trusted him up until this point and I'll continue to support the decisions being made by the owners and board. So long as the majority of shares stays with Mansour and not American investments! Whether he or the board should apologise to the level of what we have seen over on Merseyside, no. In my opinion, that would be admitting to being part of it all.
 
UEFA have something in the new legislation where in 2024, the 2 clubs with the highest co-efficient points qualify no matter where they finish in their domestic league. I think another fan revolt is required.
im not sure why people are surprised by this, it was put forward in their CL revamp months ago, which was always due to be ratified this week. There was some moaning and whining but as fans we have to stand up with more authority to this sort of stuff
 
Can someone closer to any players confirm Henderson and the other captains agreed that they should perhaps not accepts vulgar amounts of money to kick a ball around so we can avoid this kind of shit show again and keep it for the working man/woman?
 
I saw De Bruyne's tweet last night and at first glance it was ok

Then I thought I wonder if he knew anything when he signed his new contract the other week, I believe he would not have.

Then I ask do these players ever question where the money comes from for the massive wages they are paid.

The wages they receive are part of the problem football finds itself in. City have to pay these wages it seems at this moment in time to keep the best players

Although the competition part of this 'project' and the continued presence of the founders was shit the money mentioned cannot be ignored in terms of what clubs perhaps need.

Will the players now change how they negotiate, of course not.

Only one group going to carry on paying for this in the main, the fans
Then I ask do these players ever question where the money comes from for the massive wages they are paid. I am sure they do up to a certain point and when they get to 100kna week Inimagine they don't ask anymore. Money talks
 
It’s never black & white nor is it clear cut. The club did fuck up but they made amends by leaving. Also we were not the driving force behind this tournament. No presidents or VP came from city. We jumped in for 2 reasons IMO. 1. pressure from the other clubs 2. Seen it as an opportunity to fuck with uefa.

It’s is nothing more than football politics between huge organisations. The little man always gets shafted. Fans will always support their clubs. Uefa have come out of this with the moral high ground which is freighting.

The winners today: Uefa

The losers today: the cartel

City sit somewhere in the middle.
I've no idea why we did this. But it's quite possible that in the long-term this could play out well for City.
 
im not sure why people are surprised by this, it was put forward in their CL revamp months ago, which was always due to be ratified this week. There was some moaning and whining but as fans we have to stand up with more authority to this sort of stuff
Apparently this is tonbe scrapped based on somebreports today.
 
Then I ask do these players ever question where the money comes from for the massive wages they are paid. I am sure they do up to a certain point and when they get to 100kna week Inimagine they don't ask anymore. Money talks

Bigger sponsorship deals, more revenue from TV rights. All soaked up by larger and larger fees and wages for players, it isn't improving the game it's killing it.
 

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