Bluemoon Angling Thread

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Incidentally, the guide on Rutland yesterday showed me pictures of a 12.5lbs bream he caught on a lure. Says big coarse fish turn up regularly.

What I wouldn't give to fish it with feeder tactics. Not sure how you'd avoid all the uneducated rainbows though.

That's a big slab, must be a good natural food supply to sustain a similar size shoal of bream.

I've done a lot of bream fishing over the years, and fished a lot of hours on the infamous Todd Brook that contained quite a few trout. I caught the odd one mostly on maggot or worm. Never caught a trout on bread though, so may be worth "avoiding uneducated rainbows" with a simple groundbait feeder paternoster rig to a big pinch of flake to an 8-12s hook. It will definitely need a 'fill it in' accurate cast and wait approach i think as big bream are patrolling fish.

And a large shoal wont hang around if their nosebag ain't big enough to keep them on the feed. Big specimen bream of that size are usually swimming in much smaller shoals with similar sized fish. But with Rutland being a trout water I think it's course species potential id pretty much untapped. Bream fishing bomb/feeder tip success is about accurate casting and not spooking and splitting shoals with misplaced casts, also so important not to strike too soon to because losing a fish will often result in the swim going dead, especially when other bream feel a 'liner'. A sweeping strike with rod down gently coaxing from the shoal is the best approach. When fishing at range between 30-80 yards i try and place feeder on a snooker table area if possible, depends on how big i guestimate shoal size is and how confidently they're feeding. Bream fishing takes many years to master, or it did, but with modern tackle and better quality bait available fishing is not quite as hard to fish as it used to be.

You probably know most of this noggsy but for the benefit of others, bream fishing, especially specimen bream fishing is definitely not chuck and chance.

I have mostly turned to rivers nowadays for Barbel for the bulk of what i do(as i have limited fishing hours) but just writing about bream fishing has whetted my appetite to try and smash my my PB which is a modest 8lb or so. But, most of my bream fishing has been done on big Northern day ticket reservoirs that simply dont contain many fish above that kind of size. I too would love a bash for Bream of that size on Rutland.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

17lb perch ?

I came across this a few months ago, cant remember whether i put it on here but Holland seems the place to fish for specimen stripeys. Two brother's who fish together have done some excellent angling vlogs, mate. Enjoy.

 

[Sir peace frog]

I came across this a few months ago, cant remember whether i put it on here but Holland seems the place to fish for specimen stripeys. Two brother's who fish together have done some excellent angling vlogs, mate. Enjoy.

I've followed these lads for years

 

[Saddleworth2]

Incidentally, the guide on Rutland yesterday showed me pictures of a 12.5lbs bream he caught on a lure. Says big coarse fish turn up regularly.

What I wouldn't give to fish it with feeder tactics. Not sure how you'd avoid all the uneducated rainbows though.

Big shoals of bream and roach. The predator fishing is also supposed to be very good.

 

[southamptonblue]

Big shoals of bream and roach. The predator fishing is also supposed to be very good.

A lot of carp anglers believe potential British record may probably be swimming around unfished for in a trout reservoir ;) ....I tend to agree.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Coarse fishing not allowed at Rutland unfortunately or this bugger would have my name on it !

 

[Saddleworth2]

A lot of carp anglers believe potential British record may probably be swimming around unfished for in a trout reservoir ;) ....I tend to agree.

The food supply is pretty good so I wouldn’t be surprised. Trout are stocked at just under 2lb and regularly grow on to double figures so it wouldn’t surprise me if there are some big carp. Pike and zander certainly grow to specimen size.

 

[Saddleworth2]

That's a big slab, must be a good natural food supply to sustain a similar size shoal of bream.

I've done a lot of bream fishing over the years, and fished a lot of hours on the infamous Todd Brook that contained quite a few trout. I caught the odd one mostly on maggot or worm. Never caught a trout on bread though, so may be worth "avoiding uneducated rainbows" with a simple groundbait feeder paternoster rig to a big pinch of flake to an 8-12s hook. It will definitely need a 'fill it in' accurate cast and wait approach i think as big bream are patrolling fish.

And a large shoal wont hang around if their nosebag ain't big enough to keep them on the feed. Big specimen bream of that size are usually swimming in much smaller shoals with similar sized fish. But with Rutland being a trout water I think it's course species potential id pretty much untapped. Bream fishing bomb/feeder tip success is about accurate casting and not spooking and splitting shoals with misplaced casts, also so important not to strike too soon to because losing a fish will often result in the swim going dead, especially when other bream feel a 'liner'. A sweeping strike with rod down gently coaxing from the shoal is the best approach. When fishing at range between 30-80 yards i try and place feeder on a snooker table area if possible, depends on how big i guestimate shoal size is and how confidently they're feeding. Bream fishing takes many years to master, or it did, but with modern tackle and better quality bait available fishing is not quite as hard to fish as it used to be.

You probably know most of this noggsy but for the benefit of others, bream fishing, especially specimen bream fishing is definitely not chuck and chance.

I have mostly turned to rivers nowadays for Barbel for the bulk of what i do(as i have limited fishing hours) but just writing about bream fishing has whetted my appetite to try and smash my my PB which is a modest 8lb or so. But, most of my bream fishing has been done on big Northern day ticket reservoirs that simply dont contain many fish above that kind of size. I too would love a bash for Bream of that size on Rutland.

3000 acres to search and plenty drifting boats to avoid. Might be quite challenging.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

3000 acres to search and plenty drifting boats to avoid. Might be quite challenging.

Wouldn't be easy on a water so vast, that's for sure. I'd love a weekend on there fishing for bream of that size mate. I've spoken to carp anglers who've caught 10-15lb bream referring to them as "nuisance fish". Bream of that size can take my bait and I'd never call them nuisance fish because North West waters are few and far between, especially non club or syndicate waters.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Impossible to resist. Here, have a few maggots

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

3000 acres to search and plenty drifting boats to avoid. Might be quite challenging.

That was my first thought. Honestly wouldn't know where to start on a water that size, but nothing unusual for those that have fished Irish Lochs I suppose. At least with trout you can follow the wind / insect life or rises for a start.

 

[Newman Noggs]

That was my first thought. Honestly wouldn't know where to start on a water that size, but nothing unusual for those that have fished Irish Lochs I suppose. At least with trout you can follow the wind / insect life or rises for a start.

Only answer on a lake that size is pre-baiting Irish style I reckon.

 

[Scouse Blue]

I am having a rare day out tomorrow, only the second day this year. Going to a 'carp puddle' but a really nice landscaped pool, not just a hole in the ground. Went a couple of weeks ago for the first time. It was after a couple of days of 16/17C, and the day we went (with a friend) it barely got above 4C. The place was 'full' of 'bivvy boys'. I set up with my 13' match rod, 6lb maxima straight through with either a lump of luncheon meat or large prawn and had 8 really nice pristine carp, biggest just over 13lb. Saw just caught by the bivvy brigade lol. Looking forward to a day in the countryside tomorrow :-)

 

[Scouse Blue]

I'm trying hard to do my first youtube video with the theme of me searching for an elusive 3lb perch in the local canals . I've been searching for clues and basically narrowed my search down to one short canal where I keep hearing of big fish including a four pounder. One of the strange things that's happened has been that I've found several dead massive perch, which I took as good signs.

All fucking winter I've walked and fished this canal. Lures, worms and livebaits. I've not even had a pluck. I was tearing my hair out, accumulating hours of footage, and decided just to "double down" on this canal, keep at it, in for a penny in for a pound, and sooner or later I'd win the war of attrition with these mythical monsters.

On Friday evening I got chatting to a barge owner who lives there. He told me that two months ago a gang of Eastern Europeans turned up in the middle of the night, opened the lock gate, drained the whole canal down and netted it of everything.

I've wasted an entire fucking winter, talking to a camera, on an empty canal.

FFS, that's atrocious!

 

[Scouse Blue]

Well, just about thawed out from a day on Rutland fishing from a boat. We fished buzzers and, in my case, I had a "Foam-Arsed Blob" on the end of my line so I could fish what I think they call "washing line" style.

Huge lake and so windy I was still rocking when I got into bed. Hardly saw any sun and it was cold all day. Even though I put on some neoprene chest waders and my winter gear I could have fomr with more.

Anyway, there was plenty of sport which enabled the guide to give me pienty of advice on my technique so, with the wind at my back I could cast well and I learned to lift into the fish rather than striking. All in all a great day and I'll be doing it again soon although, in truth, I prefer rivers.

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Where did you stay over, assuming you did. That's 10 minutes from where I live!

 

[Saddleworth2]

Where did you stay over, assuming you did. That's 10 minutes from where I live!

You lucky lucky lad. Best trout fishery in Europe.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Where did you stay over, assuming you did. That's 10 minutes from where I live!

No, we travelled. In fact, I went further away from my home in Warwick, up to Manchester so I could see my mum and then travel to Rutland with my mate. About a 2.5 hour journey. Worth it in my view.

 

[Sir peace frog]

tales from the canal
caught fuckall
the end :)

woke up early ,another furlough day, fuck it,stuff in the car and off to the canal,i spent some time the night before making a stinger rig and wanted to try it out, 15cm(big for me) lure with 2 single hooks, didnt swim right but i was chuffed i actually bothered being a lazy sod, needs a bit of work.

another reason i went was it was quite a lovely day to start with, also i had lost one of my gloves last time i went, on the way back to the car after a complete blank just walking and trawling my lure(it was pissing down by this stage) and a big curly dog bounded up to me,and dropped something at my feet, i couldnt believe it ,it was my lost glove, i laughed to the owners it was my glove and got the other one out of my bag, so they didnt think i was some sort of scav :)

so lots learnt, a nice walk and got my glove back :)

 

[Newman Noggs]

tales from the canal
caught fuckall
the end :)

woke up early ,another furlough day, fuck it,stuff in the car and off to the canal,i spent some time the night before making a stinger rig and wanted to try it out, 15cm(big for me) lure with 2 single hooks, didnt swim right but i was chuffed i actually bothered being a lazy sod, needs a bit of work.

another reason i went was it was quite a lovely day to start with, also i had lost one of my gloves last time i went, on the way back to the car after a complete blank just walking and trawling my lure(it was pissing down by this stage) and a big curly dog bounded up to me,and dropped something at my feet, i couldnt believe it ,it was my lost glove, i laughed to the owners it was my glove and got the other one out of my bag, so they didnt think i was some sort of scav :)

so lots learnt, a nice walk and got my glove back :)

Ha ha ! Brilliant.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Ha ha ! Brilliant.

Never a dull moment at the minute:)