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Ref Watch
- Thread starter Chi-town blues
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richardtheref
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All the training courses I have been on tell you that is a yellow as contact below the knee.The differences between a yellow and a red and the differences between reckless, clumsy, didn’t actually mean it, could have been worse, still on his feet... and dangerous, intended, violent, off his feet, out of control.
If I were the ref I’d have booked Stones, I thought it was reckless but he was still on his feet.
richardtheref
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Have also heard from a PL assistant that 4 refs are looking to retire at the end of this season citing VAR and the way it is implemented. The PL is trying it's best to get them to change their minds
It's implemented by poor ref decisions in the VAR room. Not sure the refs can blame anyone but themselves tbh. They get a chance to watch multiple replays yet still manage to get things completely wrong. That's not on VAR, however much I'd like it to be.Have also heard from a PL assistant that 4 refs are looking to retire at the end of this season citing VAR and the way it is implemented. The PL is trying it's best to get them to change their minds
richardtheref
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I also think the PL telling them how to implement hand ball & off sides, in my opinion, may also play a part.It's implemented by poor ref decisions in the VAR room. Not sure the refs can blame anyone but themselves tbh. They get a chance to watch multiple replays yet still manage to get things completely wrong. That's not on VAR, however much I'd like it to be.
Oh, I don't disagree with those examples, I'm referring to the likes of yesterday's sending off for West ham and Newcastle first equaliser that was ruled out.I also think the PL telling them how to implement hand ball & off sides, in my opinion, may also play a part.
The fact that nobody in the VAR room spotted the blatant push by Trent Alexander is baffling whilst the less said the better about the red card.
Fred_Quimby
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Only one person to blame for poor officiating - Old Mother Riley.
BertTrautmann'sParachute
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Yep, poor officials threatening to quick due to poor officiating.It's implemented by poor ref decisions in the VAR room. Not sure the refs can blame anyone but themselves tbh. They get a chance to watch multiple replays yet still manage to get things completely wrong. That's not on VAR, however much I'd like it to be.
Hart of the Matter
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A ref going to look again at a decision will be facing cognitive overload.Yep, poor officials threatening to quick due to poor officiating.
What have they seen that I haven't?
Am I making the right call even if I have seen it?
How will the media see it (second guessing)?
All this sows doubt and uncertainty.
Fractional and microscopic details add to this. So it is an endemic part of VAR.
All those saying VAR is not the issue it's the officiating are talking shite. VAR is more than just the technology. It is the mind set it introduces, the reliance and the optics. The clue is in the title VIdeo Assisted 'REFEREEING'.
It is even impacting on re writing handball and offside rules on a regular basis. All because of VAR.
Yet its often the human element that gets it wrong.A ref going to look again at a decision will be facing cognitive overload.
What have they seen that I haven't?
Am I making the right call even if I have seen it?
How will the media see it (second guessing)?
All this sows doubt and uncertainty.
Fractional and microscopic details add to this. So it is an endemic part of VAR.
All those saying VAR is not the issue it's the officiating are talking shite. VAR is more than just the technology. It is the mind set it introduces, the reliance and the optics. The clue is in the title VIdeo Assisted 'REFEREEING'.
It is even impacting on re writing handball and offside rules on a regular basis. All because of VAR.
It's a combination of the two that's the problem.
Leeky
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Pretty sure Chris Kavanagh did this not so long ago, that’s why I was gob smacked he sent him of.Has there yet been a case of a ref going to check the monitor and then sticking with his original decision ( Ie over-ruling VAR)? Can’t remember any since that became a thing in the Premier League.
LangleyBlue1970
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This ref has been fucking mega.
apart from the 2 so called handballs, one of which he gave as a penalty.This ref has been fucking mega.
yeh other than that mega. cough.
LangleyBlue1970
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If you think that ref was anything other than quality’s you are after robotic perfection.apart from the 2 so called handballs, one of which he gave as a penalty.
yeh other than that mega. cough.
Leeky
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Fernandinho thinks he was good
blue b4 the moon
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I'd say he was consistently inconsistent.
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Dutch Graham Poll being the Dutch Graham Poll.
Come on chavs. I don't want Lahoz in the final.
Come on chavs. I don't want Lahoz in the final.
He was inconsistent. Some real bad calls with the handballs and non-red cards, but then I liked how he and the last ref weren't stopping the game every 20 seconds.
Chelsea to lose, right? We could get Lahoz if they win!Come on chavs. I don't want Lahoz in the final.