Tbh if corruption was used just to get lfc and utd into the TOP FOUR then it's piss poor corruption. I mean why not make them win, anything? It just doesn't seem v likely.
The anger and frustration though.... Totally, it's getting to the point of switching off from football. They're literally ruining football with VAR just being there. All they've achieved is underlining their incompetence and randomness of decisions.
Fans/people want to feel assured by what they are watching and VAR is destroying that so much more than just "a ref getting it wrong " (pre VAR)
The thing with corruption and fraud in general is that if you are too blatant/greedy your odds of getting caught are greater. If you were to take a couple of quid out of petty cash It's unlikely to be noticed, but if you took £100 it would be obvious straight away. If the Rag's had been gifted the title this season everyone would know it was bent.Tbh if corruption was used just to get lfc and utd into the TOP FOUR then it's piss poor corruption. I mean why not make them win, anything? It just doesn't seem v likely.
I’d say it matters as there’s no way away fans (pre-COVID) can see how their team is being fucked over at that precise moment?
In the Villa game he quoted the LOAF then later backtracked when he had time to re read it to say the decision was correct after a second reading .Wasn’t he the one that said it wasn’t a sending off on Jesus in the Leeds game then when he was he quickly backtracked, he is fucking useless.
Yeah agreed about greed exposing them. But then why do this with utd and lfc? Surely Brighton or West Brom would be more under the radar. It just doesnt add up, are they doing it for money or are they doing it to install utd back as champions?The thing with corruption and fraud in general is that if you are too blatant/greedy your odds of getting caught are greater. If you were to take a couple of quid out of petty cash It's unlikely to be noticed, but if you took £100 it would be obvious straight away. If the Rag's had been gifted the title this season everyone would know it was bent.
It's a fine balance with betting scams. You want to choose a few games/races likely to have little or no significance, and then spread your betting out over them. Illegal syndicates have been doing this for years and it can be very difficult to detect. The rewards are huge. It's only when they are greedy they get caught.
Not really sure what showing or not showing replays in the ground for supporters has to do with the ref or VARs decision making.
The VAR replays for controversial moments at the Etihad have all seemed to consist of 30 seconds of the var logo followed by a ridiculous 2 second replay or freeze frame for offside which doesn't give anyone chance to actually see anything anyway. Pretty much pointless. Contentious decisions are not really shown at all.
As far as I'm aware Liverpool and Utd still have pitchside monitors for the ref?
Yeah agreed about greed exposing them. But then why do this with utd and lfc? Surely Brighton or West Brom would be more under the radar. It just doesnt add up, are they doing it for money or are they doing it to install utd back as champions?
So it's everywhere, everyone's at it? That's crazy talk considering city have just won the PL for the umpteenth time and in the CL. Unless someone has cheated on our behalf?you're mixing top down backing of Rags and Dippers remaining competitive and getting CL revenue with syndicates making money off the likes of Brighton/Palace etc. where they'd traditionally strike in the Saturday 3pm games nobody in the UK would be watching. You only have to look at the refereeing in some of those mid-table games nobody used to watch to see where they operate. 2 different things at play.
We have to be at the top of our game every week to beat the cheats.So it's everywhere, everyone's at it? That's crazy talk considering city have just won the PL for the umpteenth time and in the CL. Unless someone has cheated on our behalf?
I wonder how many PL referees have been invited to ref at the Euros
If it’s none again like the WC then that tells you all you need to know how shit they are
So it's everywhere, everyone's at it? That's crazy talk considering city have just won the PL for the umpteenth time and in the CL. Unless someone has cheated on our behalf?
Are they the core though or are they under instruction? Premier League I think lays down some markers they would like to see from each season. I am sure there is fairly regular dialogue between those that run the PL and Pigmol.I disagree with your thoughts regarding the assistance for the rags and dippers but that it ok.
The only thing I am confident about is that things are not going to change anytime soon and games are going to be ruined by PGMOL's unchallenged influence.
They are the core of the shit shows we are having to witness.
That’s 2 more than I thought.. there’s going to be some very annoyed European teams then
If I understand correctly, PGMOL comes under the auspices of the Premier League whilst previously all referees and officials were appointed and allocated by the FA.I personally believe that your comments are niave but not wishing to argue. Those are you beliefs but I cannot accept them.
If City were denied the PL despite being so clearly superior to the competition, then the issue would be so blatant and obvious resulting in so much attention and exposure that a real issue would ensue. The PL daren't risk that kind of problem imo.
The rags and dippers rely upon the money from CL qualification , and the PL rely upon the money which comes to them from the rags and dippers being in the competition and boosting income revenues.
Sponsorship money for them both is linked to CL qualification so there is the vested interest explained without too much difficulty.
When the rags looked like they weren't going to qualify for a top 4 place a couple of seasons back, their penalties awarded suddenly increased. I don't believe that was a coincidence and previous comments from the PL hierarchy about " a successful MU being good for the PL " imo betrayed their hopes for the sake of future incomes.
PGMOL and their underlings form the vital cog in all of the above imo, and it is their influence and corruption which needs to be addressed and broken up, but will not be because of the money and influence that they bring.
Are they the core though or are they under instruction? Premier League I think lays down some markers they would like to see from each season. I am sure there is fairly regular dialogue between those that run the PL and Pigmol.
Its unfortunately an unholy cycle of media influence on PL, PL influence on PIGMOL, PIGMOL influence on games to achieve the outcomes the media wants. All down to money.
Why does no journalist pick Pep up on his oft repeated mantra 'we win and nobody GIVES US ANYTHING we do it ourselves'. What do they think he means by that? They pick him up on every other bloody word he utters to get a headline but not that.
And yes, I know we have won loads but that is despite this shit show not because of it. It means we need to be 20% better than the other teams and we are/have been for long stretches. Why are we so hated? Because of that.