Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

[madloaf]

We certainly weren't going to win with him....we should have stuck with our strongest side with a DM and a striker.

play fern instead of bernie (and god i love bernie) and we don't concede and we're watching us lose on penalties right now!!

 

[Silvaguerro]

Honestly. What was the point of all that hard work if that was the end result. Ridiculous changes, no proper DM when Chelsea have dominated the centre of the pitch in every game weve played them.....I honestly think Pep was thinking about the first round of subs because that starting eleven was always going to be lucky to get to HT nil nil.

I feel sorry for all those blues who went through shit to be there tonight....I’m genuinely gutted for you because you deserved better from the players and better from the manager.

Congrats to Chelsea, you were perfect, better in every single position, well done!!

What's the

Are you for real?

yes i am. Disgusted with gundogun. No reason for him to be playing over Fernandinho. Can't defend the counter, can't provide an assist, moves like a tank, WHAT IS HE GOOD AT. someone please enlighten me. Yes he scored some goals when cancelo and Bernardo did what he was supposed to do in DM, but an absolute waste. Look at Kante - that's who we need. Energy in midfield

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

Bollocks. The fact that they got to the FA Cup final and CL final makes them a good team. You don't do that by getting lucky in a couple of games.

If anything that is exactly what happens

 

[Bellamy's Caddy]

You did. My apologies. Totally misread that.

No worries mate, we're all feeling this one tonight!

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Look I’ve said this numerous times too people and maybe on here as well,but to win your league you can’t fluke it the best team wins it hands down 38 games it’s a marathon,where as the champions league the best team doesn’t always win it,a lot of luck is involved at times as well,you can’t get lucky for 38 games but in the odd game in a knockout competition you can,we move on too next season ..

Wasn’t really lucky tonight though. They were better. We just played really poorly and too many players didn’t turn up. I didn’t think we would have won even if he had played Fern and not Sterling. We just looked so poor from start to finish. It actually got worse as the game went on.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

Tonight hurts massively of course. What hurts more is that we didn’t see City stay calm and just pass and move. We played into Chelsea’s hand by rushing attacks and playing long. Frustrating but it is what it is. Next year we will make changes again and we will be back here

 

[Scottyboi]

Bollocks

it didn't help did it ?
sterling is not good enough for this level and am one of his biggest fans. but is he really a striker ?
haaland and kane and we go again next season

Every single midfielder was in each others way none of them had a clue where to go.

 

[bluealf]

It's not second time in two years, we've seen it long before that?

Liverpool QF away, he changes his best team and picks Gundo as a wide forward?

Spurs QF first leg away, no De Bruyne and Sane, brings them on with just minutes to go.

Baffling for ages.

No fernie V Spurs as well, a lesson not learned tonight.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Yes, it would have been nice to win it but a lot people are placing an awful lot of importance on it.

Even 10 consecutive CL trophy wins wouldn't come anywhere near the incredible feeling of 93:20.

Now THAT was a trophy win!

 

[ws01]

Nah mate. Accept that you bottled it. No two ways about it.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Face it, we will never win the CL with Pep as manager as he always over thinks it.

 

[madloaf]

They couodn't care less. Their season hinged on us not winning tonight. Sad & pathetic, but very true. That's how far the mighty have fallen.

I haven't thought once about United tonight. Not once.

 

[Luck95]

Look I’ve said this numerous times too people and maybe on here as well,but to win your league you can’t fluke it the best team wins it hands down 38 games it’s a marathon,where as the champions league the best team doesn’t always win it,a lot of luck is involved at times as well,you can’t get lucky for 38 games but in the odd game in a knockout competition you can,we move on too next season ..

Spot on

 

[nellyonthewing]

Chelsea will challenge for the Title next year. We have had a few games where we collectively meltdown. Passing goes to hell ,errors creep in and we get beat. Derbies and Europe seem the main games where this phenomena occurs. Pretty much every player of ours looked off it tonight.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Go to bed you’re Drunk. I know for a fact you weren’t saying this when he was banging in the goals a couple of months ago.

Agreed Gundogan is a brilliant, brilliant player. But he is not a midfield dynamo and putting him in a sole defensive mid role was just plain suicide. Like playing Yaya there. Same thing.

 

[SamBlue]

I was very amused when the team was announced, but I don't think that's the reason we lost. Everybody is banging about lack of DM and that might have prevented us conceding, who knows? But it was upfront we were completely toothless, Chilwell decided to prove he is good defender and he has done so - Riyad could not do anything. Raheem was utter crap and James even didn't have to be soo god, but he was actually. KdB, I hope he is ok and I didn't like how he left, but he was bad, very very bad. Bernardo nothing, but he hasn't been contributing attacking-wise for a couple of seasons now. Gundo too far back. Phil was trying but nothing came out of it. We played with six offensive MF and they were all basically made crap by Chelsea.
Just accept Pep's football paradigm of football in this competition, with a quality teams defending and hitting you on the break, more often than not ends up in tears. Unless there is one in two generations midget, who can single-handedly win the game for him - Phil might become this one for us. We lost to Leeds United 2:1 who played the whole half with 10 men and we barely created a chance. And what was difference tonight? The same shit.
It 's been one constant since Pep became our manager.

 

[skillman]

Not even pissed off. Just flat. Can count on one hand where it felt like we had a chance to create something. Shite.

 

[garyCTID]

If it’s not broke why try to fix it? As soon as I saw the team sheet with Sterling in the starting 11 I knew we were beat. And I’m not blaming Sterling, it’s not his fault. He is dog shit and we all know it. But Pep being Pep who clearly believes in his own press that he is the football Oracle and whatever he does is the correct winning way. He changed it tonight and we looked so disjointed. Not one single player played well. Our defence was fucking garbage, all four of them. Desperately missed a defensive midfielder. And I’m certainly not taking anything away from Chelsea or Tuchel. The way they set up defensively was magnificent. A solid impenetrable wall. And the fact that we had just one shot on target all night highlights that. I was 100% convinced this was our time to win this. No nerves whatsoever as I fully believed we would win it. But then the Pep factor kicked in and fucked it all up yet again. Hang your head in shame you selfish arrogant ****.

 

[danielwood5]

I’ll never understand why Pep chose the team he did there. No CDM, Foden out of the position he’s been brilliant in. Pep’s undoubtedly a genius but he’s set us up for failure there.

In all honesty we weren’t great and they were well organised, and well managed, if nothing special.

Rudiger’s on my list of players to root against. Intentionally left one on Kev there. Cynical. With that said Kev was having a quiet one.

I'll explain it to you.
We have gone out of the Champions League three times due to the referee we had tonight making the wrong decisions against us.
This referee has a long history of being against Pep Guardiola and against Manchester City.
Pep looked at this and realised every tackle, every bit of pressure will result in a free kick against us (at best).
With this in mind Pep decided to pick a team that were better at keeping possession rather than winning it back as that was the least likely to result in freekicks, penaltys, red cards against us.
He decided that due to the above it was sensible to pick Sterling rather than Fernandinho as that minimises the risks of red cards but allows Sterling's pace to keep James pinned back, thus negating one of their biggest threats.
Foden and De Bruyne were then allowed to roam up front in the hopes that this would then pull their back 5 out of position a little allowing us to exploit the space somewhat.
Hope this helps.

 

[Gray]

Look I’ve said this numerous times too people and maybe on here as well,but to win your league you can’t fluke it the best team wins it hands down 38 games it’s a marathon,where as the champions league the best team doesn’t always win it,a lot of luck is involved at times as well,you can’t get lucky for 38 games but in the odd game in a knockout competition you can,we move on too next season ..

Spot on mate the PL is the pinnacle not the misnamed Champions League. Lets face it even Wigan can win a cup competition and where are they now?