Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

Love Pep. We’ve had an amazing season. Very proud of the club for their efforts over the last 6 months.

But... biggest game in our history and you take our leader and coolest head out of the centre of the team. On a night where we might be nervous, and against a midfield with Kante and Mount we really needed Fernandinho in there, and literally everyone can see it other than Pep.

Bye bye Sergio. I really wish tonight was different for you.

great season, CTID
 
Are Chelsea a better team? No
Do Chelsea have a stronger starting 11? No
Is Tuchel a better manager than Pep? No

So, why did we lose and where did it go wrong? Player mentality and Pep. One plays into the other. They say shit rolls down hill, so does confidence. Many players would of seen that starting 11 tonight and lost confidence, that is where it went wrong. The players internally would of questioned the managers decisions like many fans and that is what we seen play out on the pitch, lack of confidence and uncertainty.
If players are going to lose confidence that easily they don't deserve to be playing in a top football league anywhere. If our players bottled it that easily no wonder we lost.

Quite sad that most of you aren't capable of admitting it, but Chelsea's defence were brilliant tonight.
 
I’m still in shock that we’ve played that line up and let (IMO) a pretty average team beat us in a cup final. They have very few players to be genuinely terrified of like PSG or Real Madrid, or even United have in their ranks.

Pep has done great things for us but I’d really like to hear him accept responsibility for once and admit he made an error and in hindsight shouldn’t have been so radical.
Not a personal dig this but it's highly disrespectful to downplay how efficient this Chelsea team is.

Against Dortmund and PSG, they relied on key figures which he nullified over both legs - this Chelsea team are stubborn and actually fairly decent at counter attacking football. We struggle against teams who pack the defence such as Burnley et al, unfortunately they're counter attacking with top class talent and it shows.

I'm so disappointed tonight but it shouldn't take away from the season as a whole. If you would have told us in November/December time that we would canter the league, win a cup and get to the final of Europe I'm sure we would have bitten your hand off. Its just unfortunate that following on from the quarter and semi performances that this was so flat and ineffective as a whole.

I understand why Pep went for the system he went for, we struggled against them twice and he obviously thought that an extra attacker would pull them out of shape and Gundo could control the tempo but it just didn't work out for us tonight. I know people will point at systems and us not knowing it well enough but there's no chance we didn't work on this over the past couple weeks, there comes a point where we have to look at 5 yard passes going astray - I thought we looked nervous all game.

Personally, I think we misses the opportunity to play our best team in the last two games and keep everyone ticking over. It's a gamble in terms of keeping folk fresh but it's the first time we've put out a strong team and looked rusty for months.

I didnt think Sterling was particularly bad, James had his number but you can see he is devoid of all confidence on the pitch which is horrible to see. Jesus added something different when he came on without being overly threatening. I just wish that Pep made a change at half time and pulled Kev back into midfield where he put on an absolute clinic against Everton.

Fair play to Chelsea, not the most exciting team to watch but they will win more games than they lose in that system. Off for a few beers, enjoy your summer blues and save journey to everyone coming home from Portugal!
 
I have already told that the only thing can stop man city win the CL title is Starting Sterling.
Pep is too arrogant to start sterling,
To make matters worse, Pep didn't start any DM. No rodri no Fernie.


Pep fucked up! Why change the mature line-up that is already proved can beat PSG?
 
How many CL did we win under Mancini or Pellegrini? How many finals did we make?

You're fucking mad to downplay everything, including our Centurions and clean sweep seasons, because we lost one final - especially because it's the only final we've lost the past 5 years

I’m not downplaying anything domestically, in fact it’s the exact opposite, I don’t mind talking football but if you lack reading comprehension that is your fault not mine.

To clarify for you this is not just about tonight’s game it’s about 5 years of failure against poorer teams. It’s about continually playing kamikaze football in Europe and getting beat and then when finally he changes and adapts and we get to the the fucking final he reverts to type and goes batshit crazy again.

If he had played the team that got us there and played most of the season and we lost fair play, we didn’t turn up, Chelsea played well. But he didn’t he fucked about again.

We may win it next year or in 10 years but some players won’t, some fans won’t see it because he has been crap in Europe, it’s a fact look up the bloody results.

By the way Mancini and Pellegrini weren’t classed as football geniuses and after they won the title they got fuck all backing. We wanted Pep the genius to take us to global dominance. Haha that’s worked.

Anyhow Sergio is off and maybe Dinho but they can’t complain they haven’t won a champions league coz we were shit under Swales and Stevie Coppell.

Fuck me the logic of this place.
 
Right, I am going to bed, one final thought - did Sergio even touch the ball after he came on ? It’s an incredibly disappointing end to a brilliant career at City. Thanks for the memories Sergio.
He did when he should have fucking leathered it instead of trying to cross it. 93:20
 
We win the league because we are flat track bullies. Unlike our rivals we stuff every poor side. But when the pressure is on as it often is, we fuck up.
The enigma is.
With the same side with Mancini and Pellegrino in charge we don't win the league so often.
But I've always thought we'll win the CL with our next manager.
Pep has a blind spot.
Jesus fuckin wept
 
Not according to Guardiola but he does think Sterling is and that he’s good enough to be captain. That’s pretty alarming TBH.
I’m in the Sterling is done and it’s time to move on camp but he has been central to a lot of the great times under Guardiola, particularly during the centurions season. Pep is a loyal guy and I don’t hold it against him giving Sterling as many chances as possible to turn it around. This isn’t a computer game, these are people he is managing and how you treats them matters and is seen by others
 
Part 2:

I feel fuckin sick! The Rags were praying for this, & we gave em what they wished for! The fucking twats started ringing & texting me as soon as the final whistle blew.

Why Pep? Why not start the team that barely gave Mbappé & Neymar a kick?

Sterling hasn't been on form for weeks, yet we start him in the CL Final? The biggest piss take was naming a starting line up without a CDM against a team who've beaten us twice recently, because we never played our strongest 11, or best formation.

If we'd played the team which beat PSG, & our preferred formation, I could congratulate Chelsea & say well done. When that ball was played to Havaertz (sic), he received it right where Fernandinho or Rodri would have been!

Luckily for us, he scored, otherwise Ederson would have been sent off for handball. We defeated ourselves by taking the piss against Chelsea. We disrespected them, & lost the opportunity to give Aguero the send off he deserved.

Pep, you're one of the greatest managers ever, but tonight you believed your own hype, & underestimated a team who reached a CL final. They can't be mugs to achieve that, so why were we treating them like Cheltenham at The Etihad, instead of Chelsea in a final?? Just why? Didn't our two recent defeats against them teach you anything???? :-(
They have nothing to crow about. They have ended the season trophyless
 

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