Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

Having slept on it it does not feel one bit better. also got the 1st pfizer vaccine yesterday and now my shoulder/upper arm hurts too.

makes me livid to think all it took Chelsea to win CL is to sack Lampard, bring in Tuchel, have him tweak around a leaky side and deliver CL title while we have been working on it only with Pep for 5 years and nothing.

good thing we have the PL/Carabao to reflect back on this season.

colossal fuck up this final, absolute no guarantee we will be in another CL final under Pep. we might get there again next year but its really really hard. there is a reason why most top clubs aint getting to final so often. Took bayern 7 years after 2013 triumph. took Chelsea 8 years after 2012 win. Barca has not been in one in 6 years and counting.

would not be surprised one bit if we dont have another CL final in 5 years not because we are not worthyt it just needs o many different factors to click all together to reach it. this season everything looked like we are finally on track to have no refs fucking us, mentally being ready, doing great in knockout stage, sorting the defence which leaked goals vs Monaco, Pool, spurs, Lyon, etc.

and then we throw away in the final despite fair play to Chelsea they were prepared for it as hell. feels like they did a better job prepare for us and we did for them which is crazy given we just lost to them 2 times recently. we knew what to expect and Tuchel hardly done any surprise on that front. it just they raised their game even more mentally.
 
SidJames said:
Love your optomisim mate.

I doubt the European heavy wieghts will be that poor again for a good while

Last night was our time to shine,we all know it.

Pep blew it.

Today we reflect on what should have been our moment in the Sun.

It is not sour Grapes,we should be Champions of Europe today.We had the better players.

I think Sam Allardyce would have won that managing us last night.
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But Big Sam would have never have got us there or assembled this squad and coped without strikers.

Lets be balanced about Pep's time at Manchester City. It's been wonderful. More please. You don't know how lucky we are.
 
East Level 2 said:
Maybe you don't fuck about when taking a penalty in one of those games. And possible you play in a league where the refs and VAR officials aren't deaf, dumb, blind and bent, and get the second penalty. Then you probably win one of those games and get rid of all this shite about "Tuchel having Pep's number".
Last night was due to us not having a defensive mid of Dino or Rodri's quality rather than playing weakened teams in two previous games against Chelsea.
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I just can't understand it won't compute why we handed thrown thease fukers THREE games
 
Wish folk would stop making out that Tuchel is some kind of messiah had Pep not played into his hands 3 times then nobody would be going on about him .......... Leicester sussed him out ...... a bang average Arsenal and Villa team did the same .......... he’s had a free ride this season with no pressure on him at all ......... I mean you couldn’t have handed him a better semi final line up than a declining Madrid side ........... put it this way 2 seasons down the line he will be at pastures new ......... it’s all well and good this defensive football when it’s working but like Mourinho once it stops then your on very much borrowed time
 
PoorTom said:
We will wonder forever what the classic XI would have done in this final.
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Exactly. That's why I'm still seething. Even though it was only one player out it meant most of the other players were playing a slightly different game than they would normally.

As someone has already posted, Chelsea may well have our number and our best 11 may well have been beaten. That starting 11 that Pep put out last night may well have been the best line-up to win the game. But we'll never know.

However, had our best 11 been beaten I could have lived with that and not be thinking we shot ourselves in the foot.

Chelsea were by far the better team and fully deserved to win, sadly.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Not sure why we would effectively surrender midfield but I think we should be relieved we escaped with just a 1 - 0 defeat.

For whatever reason we simply did not play as a team, the very thing that has brought us this seasons successes.
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We didn't surrender midfield. We surrendered midfield cover so Chelsea could have a free-run at our back 4 every time our possession broke down.
 
Marvin said:
He made a mistake but he's still the best coach. Look back at City over the past few seasons. It's been magnificent. Pep is Pep. Genius but flawed. I'll keep him without a moments hesitation.
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I haven’t said to get rid of him though. At least not this time. I just don’t that it’s too much to ask for a good showing in Europe where we play our best and don’t fuck about after spending what we have
 
Bantamgaz said:
Wish folk would stop making out that Tuchel is some kind of messiah had Pep not played into his hands 3 times then nobody would be going on about him .......... Leicester sussed him out ...... a bang average Arsenal and Villa team did the same .......... he’s had a free ride this season with no pressure on him at all ......... I mean you couldn’t have handed him a better semi final line up than a declining Madrid side ........... put it this way 2 seasons down the line he will be at pastures new ......... it’s all well and good this defensive football when it’s working but like Mourinho once it stops then your on very much borrowed time
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He got sacked at PSG and lost in his first Champions League final as well
 
Amazing the amount of bollox posted about Pep. He will be more gutted than anyone for this not to come off.

We’ve seen some of best football in the history of the English game since Pep arrived and were only too ready to call our genius manager.

We have become such an entitled bunch in recent years, it’d be good for SM et al to fuck off so some fans can get a reality check an experience another York away moment.
 
Chelsea goal was a ball right through the heart of our defence. It needed to be stopped at source, on the halfway line. Ferno is an expert at knowing when we are in danger of this type of goal. The first goal was crucial in this game, it allowed Chelsea to close up shop and they did it well. They left no space. The first time we got the ball across their six yard box the player waiting to tap it in was Gundo. To late.
 
SidJames said:
Glad it is not just me.

Honestly i strted wondering if he had a Jizz stained poster of Mark Hughes in the loft somewhere.

Every Derby sets us up to make Rashford,and Martial looki like Peak Ronaldo,and Ronaldinho.

Then ater the the loss.

They are a great Club,with lots,and lots of history.........did i say lots of history enough times.

Every time he says it,i feel like he is having a dig at us,insulting us.By infering we have no history by making such stements.
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He is actually taking the piss out of the press and the media with that comment.
 
Jogon 127 said:
Amazing the amount of bollox posted about Pep. He will be more gutted than anyone for this not to come off.

We’ve seen some of best football in the history of the English game since Pep arrived and were only too ready to call our genius manager.

We have become such an entitled bunch in recent years, it’d be good for SM et al to fuck off so some fans can get a reality check an experience another York away moment.
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I think we can all do without a lecture from someone who joined in 2019 and who has 133 posts thanks.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
Thanks mate - it still feels pretty grim though but with our club there's always next year.
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Yes you're right pal.
Just feel our showing last night was akin to that of Spurs in the final of a couple of years back.
Nothing to remember but the result.
Ah well still Kings of England which is a better feeling than the Rags of got
 
simple yes or no, who would have picked that team with all the players to choose from
 
Marvin said:
A coach has to have the freedom to coach. You take Pep, you accept he will do these things.

He is still the best coach in the world but he's also a maverick who will make mistakes
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Because this keeps happening I’m starting to wonder whether this has something to do with Pep’s ego. Does he feel the need to do something radical in these big games so we can all acknowledge his brilliance?
 
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