Let's get back to discussing. I totally agree of the Bollocks on how many posts and when you joined etc. It means "jack shit". I joined in 2015 and have followed our beloved club since the mid 70's. Everyone is entitled to join whenever suits and have an opinion.There you go again billy bigs balls. 2 minutes on here etc etc. Blah blah blah
so you’re a Fanboi of the mega post fraternity?
I couldn’t give 2 fucks how many posts someone has on here if they raise a valid point.
you come across as Kevin the teenager, which is what you probably are (in your head at least).
I said this after the first game!We should have had Sterling and Mahrez pressing James and Chilwell and left their CBs to it. I get why Pep tried it, it just didn’t come off and had a lot of knock on consequences that weren’t worth it.
I said this after the first game!
The key to Chelsea’s game is OVERLOAD!
At the back, when defending, they collapse into a a 5-4-1, with the FBs dropping back into their FB position and their two AMs dropping in alongside Kante & Jorginho/Kovacic, leaving Werner upfront as the outlet on the angle (ie running towards the corner flags where the space is, as opposed to always over the top).
Then, once they regain the ball, they revert to a 5-2-2-1, but from the 5, the two FBs play all the way along the line.
So, as the ball moves forward, the formation becomes 3-4-2-1, then 3-2-4-1, then 3-1-1-5, as either Kante or J/K get to marshall the area in front of their back 3 while the other shuttles the ball left and right. This creates the same shuffle in the opposition back 4, but now they’re overloaded such that the back post FB is always free…UNLESS THE OPPOSITION WINGERS ARE DEFENDING AGAINST THEM, which they not only hate, but are shit at! It’s why a player like Harrison at Leeds has been considered revelatory! BIELSA DEMANDS YOU MARK YOUR MAN!!
Anyway, with nearly all back 4s these days playing within the width of the box, if the wingers don’t track the runner, the FB has to come out and defend against the opposition attacking FB, which leaves you a man down!
We were playing high stakes man to man at the back, and Zinchenko tried to a) play Havertz offside, or b) didn’t have the wheels to keep up with him, or c) simply didn’t recognize the danger that he was one on one with the last man who had just had a channel created for him by Werner’s inside out run. Either way, he fucked himself with all 3!!!
If you have a proper look on here there will be very few of those responses from fans that know the game.Appreciate a decent response it was interesting that the Chelsea forums I didn’t see any of the 4-0 up in 30 minutes shit.
I haven't seen any.Has anyone posted about Pep overthinking it yet?
Didn't have a bad game???Sterling didn’t have a bad game though we should have started with a striker.
how many balls in the box and no one was there.
There was an awful lot on the pre match threadIf you have a proper look on here there will be very few of those responses from fans that know the game.
I said earlier a final is FINAL, and there is only ever one winner and it's usually the better team, and it was.
I didn't think the ball ran well for us for much of the game, and that is sometimes how football works, and it's fine margins, but that is often down to how you play.
We started the game like a frightened rabbit, it gave you the momentum, and it was only a surprise that you took so long to take the lead, though we did have chances too, but losing a goal close to half time was a problem for us.
Can I like this ten times?Didn't have a bad game???
Tell me the last time this over payed "star" took a city game by the scruff of the neck and said "this ones for me,i'll show everyone how good i am"?
Bollocks he was awful YET AGAIN
I agree with you about the post numbers, but no need for the personal insults. COC requires respect at all times.There you go again billy bigs balls. 2 minutes on here etc etc. Blah blah blah
so you’re a Fanboi of the mega post fraternity?
I couldn’t give 2 fucks how many posts someone has on here if they raise a valid point.
you come across as Kevin the teenager, which is what you probably are (in your head at least).
Split hairs all you like, we all know what our strongest lineup & formation was, & that would include Rodri or Fernandinho. The goal we conceded came from a pass right where either Fern or Rodri would have been.Well, you have to say what you think your strongest team is because the striking fact is that Pep has rotated his squad regularly as a result of form, injury, illness and to balance minutes. I assume that by "strongest team" you mean the eleven who started the QF and SF, in which case Rodri started 3 of them, whereas most people wanted to go with Ferna. Ferna came on after 64 minutes and the same substitutes were used in the final as in the earlier knock out rounds. Apart from that Cancelo started 2 of the knock out rounds in Zinchenko's place but Zinchenko's selection does not seem controversial. So the element of rotation does seem to have been minimal, and the factis that the "strongest team" had ONLY started the QF and SF so we cannot take it for granted that it would start again a monthe later, though the evidence is that Pep was loyal to those players. The theory is that he blundered by not playing Ferna, who would have prevented the Chelsea goal. This might have been the case ... but equally it might not. I would point out that Ferna was unable to prevent a golden chance falling to Pulisic to put the game beyond our reach. And for the goal itself it is hard to say that only Ferna was needed to prevent it: no-one was within a mile of Mount, our CBs had gone AWOL and Zinchenko waved Havertz goodbye as he chased a ball played into the space behind our backline. The goal was a team disaster, not down to the absence of one man.
There was an awful lot on the pre match thread
Chelsea are much more than a parked bus I suggest you read the post by Chicago Blue if you think that is the case.That's because, overall, as the league table showed we're the better team and many fans were correspondingly confident.
Chelsea did what some teams do who know they can't compete standing toe to toe and just defend hoping to score at some point. Leeds did it with 10 men, united always do it, Spurs did it and Newcastle did it. No-one beats us playing attacking football as our owners demand we do as described by Pep in his interview with Ferdinand. PSG and Dortmund found that out as did Liverpool at Anfield. It's a unique club philosophy which will cost us from time to time.
So Chelsea did it and won and deservedly so. We have to find an answer to the parked bus and it's something we've been wrestling with for years. Fortunately, generally, we've been doing rather well.
I am not sure exactly what we were trying to do and the way we set about trying to implement the game plan suggested the players did not fully understand it either.Yep, pretty much that! I get why we did it but we put the pressure on the wrong parts, we should have nullified the outball wide and forced them through the middle.
The whether we should have played a dm or not isn’t the main thing.
100% it beggars belief.......as soon as i saw the line up i knew the outcome as my comment in the pre-match will support.Split hairs all you like, we all know what our strongest lineup & formation was, & that would include Rodri or Fernandinho. The goal we conceded came from a pass right where either Fern or Rodri would have been.
We played with a CDM vs Dortmund & PSG, so why not against an equally strong Chelsea in the final? It boggles the mind & beggars belief. Simple.
I said last night when Guardiola made that speech about players being upset if they're not chosen for the final I would guess 90% of blues knew he was talking about Sterling, possibly Gab, Aguero and Rodri. Never in our wildest dreams would Fern be left out and starting with Sterling, a woefully out of form player. What a time to field a starting 11 you've never put together before in a once in lifetime final.Exactly my thoughts.. to be be more precise why why why one thousand pounds in my case, if I’d suspected sterling was going to play I would have sold my ticket and stayed in the fan zone with my mates, got too pissed and forgot about the team announcement until I got in the ground and saw his face come up on the screens
The collective groans when this happened and the exasperated gasps when the idiot got the captains armband summed the whole evening up.